christian indoctrination is a real thing. secularism is a cornerstone of enlightenment. bigotry is not. the "gay agenda" is not real, teachers are not "indoctrinating" kids with it. limiting speech to fight a made up enemy is authoritarian. constantly making this false equivalence, repeatedly lying about the facts, in order to defend such authoritarian overreach, is reprehensible.

So it's not racist or classist then you go on to describe exactly how it's racist and classist.

Do some basic googling on why inner cities are mostly black while you're at it. It's not because of neutral economic policy.

You just bolstered my argument here. Parents don't want meritocracy.




Ah yes. Dumb right wingers said the same thing about teaching intelligent design. "Were not authoritarian religious nutjobs trying to undermine scientific facts. Teach the controversy!"

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Apr 10 2022 03:56am

No, I did not. I described that the divisions cut across racial and class lines. There's division within white groups between rich and poor as well as urban and rural places. There is division between asians who benefit from a meritocratic system and blacks and hispanics who are disadvantaged by it. In cities like NY, you even have tensions between different groups of blacks.

The bottom line is that modern fights over school funding are everyone vs everyone else.


I'm well aware of the way whites were voting with their feet against school integration during the 70s and 80s. The picture is far more murky and nuanced today.


Agreed. This does not, however, imply that parents are racist or classist. It would only be racism or classism if parents were willing to show solidarity with school in other places which share their class or skin color while denying it to those of a different skin color or class. This is not the case! When it comes to schooling, there is essentially no solidarity with anyone else, everybody is only looking out for himself. Hence, the explanation is mundane selfishness rather than racism/classism.





This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 10 2022 04:12am

absolute clown world that we are having this discussion to begin with and thats exactly the purpose of wokeism, even the most basic common sense gets undermined somehow

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Uh, yes they are. Video after video has proven it and just listening to any activist/extremist teacher its clear as day. Look at it this way, if teachers were whole-heartedly educating children and not pushing ideology to pre-teens and teens, why are test scores continuously behind the world? Why is the college dropout rate so high? Why is the graduation rate so low? I believe it's a culmination of extremist teachers and fund-hungry administrators. Actually teaching a child is now like, 3% of a school budget. If kids were learning state capitals, how to read computer code, and how to identify variables for math problems, and we were blowing away the rest of the world with high-achieving smart young adults, the conversation would be different.

Schools are failing, and hard, and it just so a-happens that they are extremely left-leaning, controlled by an even more left-leaning union who advocated to keep kids uneducated for a year while teachers got paid to get day-drunk in their pajamas. They screwed those kids over so hard and for what? Money. They didn't care they spiked the futures of millions of kids, they wanted to get more free perks at work and more people to say "omg you're so smart and selfless being such a leader on every human controversy, its ok all 3 of my kids failed math at your school."

Then look at social media and see the primary conversations young people are having, exactly the crap being spewed by their teachers and what are we clearly pointing out. Everyone somehow became a civil advocate for every injustice in the world and I don't know how egos got so damn big. Baizuos.

Sexual education protects children against groomers.

One can imagine why that the party who has members who pay underage girls for sex, who want to marry teenagers, who believe if rape is unavoidable just sit back and enjoy it, whose leaders have been repeatedly photographed hanging with Epstein on the Lolita express, your team, are against teaching children to recognize and avoid groomers, and want to instead teach them their own "family values".

It is very obvious what the GOP wants here. They want to limit the ability of people who protect children to do so and they want to keep children defenseless.

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 10 2022 06:47am

pale lefties always are the culprits of this behavior that encourages bizarre policies like reinstating segregation and the new trend of wanting adults to forcefully teach 4-7 year olds about sexual practices in schools

it really is a sickness

> Gets angry when woman in job interview doesn't answer question in public asking what a woman is
> Gets angry when professional educators try to explain to kids what a woman is

wut?

Teaching kids about gender is a sickness but legalizing child marriage isn't. Great values Excellence!



We know why the GOP wants to keep kids dumb.

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 10 2022 08:22am

Is that what they do though? My understanding is that they teach kids about weird stuff like how there are more than 2 sexes and how homosexuality is ok.