Yeah, but again, the Democratic party today is far more liberal and ideologically streamlined than that of 2008. If the Dems from 2021 got similar congressional margins as in 2008, they would presumably pass their entire wishlist and transform the country forever.



This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 11 2022 12:12pm

You really do live in a fantasy land. I forget that sometimes.

Which of the policies form my list do you think would NOT be passed with a 60 seat margin in the House and 58 Democratic senators?

Holy shit. Your list is so delusional

A "pAcKeD FeDeRaL JuDiCiArY"? Mitch McConnell effectively filibustered 105 Obama nominees to the Federal bench, and killed a SCOTUS nominee after becoming Majority Leader.

Elects demented person as president > HE SUCKS reeeeeeeeeeeee

Dems will lose the senate & Breyer will die. McConnell will stop the replacement yet again just to twist the knife a little more.



He is going to be a shitty lib, after a year I'm ready to call that he was a feckless shitty lib like expected

"reeeeeeeeeeeeee"

Such impressive political acumen & reading comprehension.

This post was edited by LouisLeGros on Jan 11 2022 12:34pm

The $10 trillion price tag might have been slightly overblown, and the part with the reparations to the taliban was obviously polemical, but otherwise, it seems realistic.

They tried to pass spending bills with a combined price tag of almost $5 trillion. They publicly talk about packing the judiciary to erase the advantage the GOP achieved there over the past years. They clearly want to pass sweeping voting rights legislation like the For the People Act/John Lewis Voting Rights Act/Freedom to Vote Act/HR1. And recently, they talk about trying to eliminate or carve out the filibuster to pass this voting rights legislation. Immigration reform has also long been a priority of both their activist base and their donors and also makes sense from a power politics point of view. It's also no secret that they want gun reform and a regulation of speech.

Aaaand they're planning and signalling all that with a mere 9-vote margin in the House and the tiniest possible margin in the 50+1/50 Senate. Also note that my list does not include a strengthening of the welfare state or redistribution from rich to poor.


If you think Democrats wouldn't pass these things which entrench their power (voting rights, packing judiciary, amnesty, regulation of speech), are priorities of their donor class (covid relief, amnesty, regulation of speech) or a priority of their activist base (voting rights, amnesty, gun reform, hate speech) if they easily could do it (like in this scenario with 58 D senators), then it is you who's delusional.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 11 2022 12:42pm

We are talking about a counterfactual scenario in which Democrats have 58-60 senators and a wide margin in the House, like they did back in 2009. And in this scenario, it is my belief that the Democrats from 2021 would definitely nuke the filibuster to pass their agenda.