lol man I was having a dialogue with Handcuffs who came up with the man up / male up thing and you just had to jump in to throw shit just lol man

But if "male" and "men" are the same, because "sex" and "gender" are the same, why does "man" have a condition of age?

A newborn may be male, but isn't a man?

Yes. And everyone knows men are born with a John Deere hat, flannel shirt, and GI Joe action figures. Genetic. Nothing they can do about it.

baby boy / boy /teenage boy / man , you can call all of those males but you can't call a baby boy a man obviously he's got to grow up first. That's by definition.

But what's behind all this what's the point you're making

But then they're not interchangeable/the same then, no? That's my point.

A newborn could die two weeks after being born, and will have been male 100% of its life but would have never been a man.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jan 1 2022 02:41pm

Bolded part is clearly true and a man can only die as a man and no longer die as a baby boy he passed that station luckily for him

So does this not mean that "male" and "men" are different?

In my book men make up a % of males but so do boys. Male and men are connected

They may be connected, but they're not exactly the same, right?

"Male" is used to describe all males, "men" only a % of males but we know "men" can only be used for males and not for females for example. At least, in my book. Just say what you think instead of trying to let me stumble over some definition