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Jul 23 2021 08:17am
I will remember all my life the this guy working in marketing/communication department, he was the only man, all other were women.
He had the eyes of a beaten dog.
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Jul 23 2021 08:21am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 22 2021 10:29pm)
Idk about no one but it would be drastically less.

But let's say you're right. Even if you are, the 3rd party websites that sold duped runes for extravagant amounts every ladder reset did so at least with some blessing from blizzard or people within blizzard. A fuck ton of money was being made at every reset. You really think Blizzard wasn't in on some of these profits? They were just continuously patching a 10, 15, 20 year old game with no in app purchases because of...?

So in a way Blizzard allowing this is the way to fix the low rate, which again created a fairly decent equilibrium from a supply/demand perspective. I much rather have it be like that then getting a high rune every other time I killed Baal.

As I look back, d2 remains one of my favorite RPG's I ever played, not because of the lore or graphics, but precisely because of the item system scarcity and how hard was it to actually have a 'perfect' character. Like I'm playing Witcher 3 now, fantastic game, but once I got the master crafted set (best gear in the game) my interest has significantly dropped.

Really good RPG's have that chasing the magic dragon angle to them, that makes people spend an obscene amount of hours doing repetitive shit for no reason than to just get a little better.


blizzard 100% did not have any profits from 3rd party sites. their financial incentives come from botters and players buying CD keys. when the patched it to be a download with no physical copy, no box, no artwork printed, no shipping, and no retail cut their profit margin exploded. also they cut the price so people bought more, as did botters.

blizzard has only ever one time been able to crack down on botting, elsewise they simply can't tell from the server side who's botting from a programming side. they have to use logical tests on a case by case basis like "has this person been on for 24 hours". in which case botters would just swap out chars/accs/kets/IPs so its not worth the effort for blizzard.

warden protects gear, and games/hour timer keeps bots semi slow compared to say 1.09 meph bots.

but patches and the ladder resets are a part time project for the "classic team" who handles several games and is a team of like 3-4 devs. none of the recent patches since 1.12 have been major, and the patch to WSG they tried went so bad that they reverted it after a few weeks. now i think they learned there lesson and will reset and that's it.
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Jul 23 2021 08:43am
If bots and dupers didn't exist it would be patch 1.09 maybe 1.10 (my memory fails me) You either duelled as a sorc a zon or a barb.

If somehow all bots and dupers were banned you would have to adjust the drop rate tables if you wanted to continue to have similar duel games that we had in 1.14.
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If bots and dupers didn't exist it would be patch 1.09 maybe 1.10 (my memory fails me) You either duelled as a sorc a zon or a barb.

If somehow all bots and dupers were banned you would have to adjust the drop rate tables if you wanted to continue to have similar duel games that we had in 1.14.


1.09, pre enigma patch, which was 1.10.

and pallys. joderdin aka hammerdin that charged/synches to move, could kill anything. and is annoying af to duel against.
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1.09, pre enigma patch, which was 1.10.

and pallys. joderdin aka hammerdin that charged/synches to move, could kill anything. and is annoying af to duel against.



Paladin overall was overpowered as fuck. My sync smiter would annihilate whole games, only time I’d die is by accidentally running into stray hammer chains.

But getting back to the drop rates, the way it was to me was ideal. I played between 1.10 and 1.12 it was perfect for me. I rather dupers exist and provide some limited supply of high runes versus fucking with the drop rates to the point where it might have fucked up the economy. Like I could get excited by finding a Hoz in a given week while simultaneously saving up for a ber rune on ladder.
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Paladin overall was overpowered as fuck. My sync smiter would annihilate whole games, only time I’d die is by accidentally running into stray hammer chains.

But getting back to the drop rates, the way it was to me was ideal. I played between 1.10 and 1.12 it was perfect for me. I rather dupers exist and provide some limited supply of high runes versus fucking with the drop rates to the point where it might have fucked up the economy. Like I could get excited by finding a Hoz in a given week while simultaneously saving up for a ber rune on ladder.


bots are a slippery slope, but overall they were fine before the d2 beee esss public botting was released. then it made it possible for anyone to not only bot, but multi bot 8x chars per computer.

my work at the time had a box of free 1 gb flash drives, and flash drives were like 5gb for the cheapest at walmart, so no one wanted. i took 100 of them, diablo 2 took up like 400 mb, and bought 5$ china flash drive ports. then ran 32x bots on east, and 16x on eu, all with 2$ cracked keys. whole rig cost me like 100$ and got old laptops for free of buddies and my old comps. i had an insane amount of items for the few ladders i ran it and made a decent chunk of cash selling on facebook of all places.

and at the same time users like Yogi took the same stuff and made a legit website which now makes him high 6 figures or more each year, and he has 15milFG. lol
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Jul 23 2021 10:29am
Blizzard was built on toxic culture. Love the article, might consider working there now. As for Diablo, it wont be the same unless David Brevik is on board. He has the soul stones afterall.

Also, any oldschool GG player knows classic > xpac for both fun, players, and GG rare drop rates.
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Blizzard was built on toxic culture. Love the article, might consider working there now. As for Diablo, it wont be the same unless David Brevik is on board. He has the soul stones afterall.

Also, any oldschool GG player knows classic > xpac for both fun, players, and GG rare drop rates.


last 3 ladders i ran classic instead of xpac. indeed way more fun.
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Jul 23 2021 11:44am
It isn't just females.

https://twitter.com/bkcrusco/status/1418241726792142849?s=19

Reading over the comments here, I am not telling people not to stop playing or what not. It is just my decision not to support this. Many companies have had similar accusations and many also still have this going on. Status of their games, stock, etc are irrelevant to me. There could be an unheard of company, doing the same BS. Doesn't make it any more justified.
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Quote (Stauf @ Jul 23 2021 11:44am)
It isn't just females.

https://twitter.com/bkcrusco/status/1418241726792142849?s=19

Reading over the comments here, I am not telling people not to stop playing or what not. It is just my decision not to support this. Many companies have had similar accusations and many also still have this going on. Status of their games, stock, etc are irrelevant to me. There could be an unheard of company, doing the same BS. Doesn't make it any more justified.


Honestly I could care less if they put out a good product just like I dont stop myself from buying products that are from companies that take advantage of foreign labour through blatant exploitation. I dont wake up and toss my phone out because some people work in horrendous working conditions. I don't sell my car because much of it components were made on foreign soil with workers not making a living wage. I don't actively shop for products that dont use child labour , if its cocoa from Cameroon so be it, textiles, coffee, you name it.

So for me to actively stop buying video games from a company because of some sexual harassment is a pretty far stretch. I would think if people stopped and thought about all the shit they actively use in a day that comes from much, much worse situations, they would just realize oh yeah never mind ill get the game.

Someone will quote me and say just because you support one bad thing doesn't mean you have to neglect others.

This post was edited by SBD on Jul 23 2021 01:20pm
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