And stop wearing masks? Why? It doesn't affect you in the slightest if people wear what you think is an ineffective masks.

But if you are wrong ( which now a large body of evidence says you are) you are affecting those around you, and facilitating a virus which is killing the economy as well as people.

This post was edited by SenorNZ on Dec 2 2020 05:30pm

mask are bad for a persons health. It was irresponsible for the feckless despots to mandate them. There were no studies for long term masking. But the results are coming out and its not looking good and the despots will not reconsider. covid is so small it passes right through a mask. despots lie to you.
its not about covid it is about something else

you said: "( which now a large body of evidence says you are)
this is false it is the evidence that made me a anti masker, to start your journey for the truth look up "mask mouth" I wonder how many grocery clerks now have "mask mouth"

its the insaner despot rule that is killing the economy and if it continues the poverty rate is going to go higher than just doubling. Even the CDC says dont do lock downs. but the anti science despots do it any way.

Please show me a single peer reviewed study that supports this.

On the other hand, there is a lot of data that demonstrates their safety. In the US and in Europe there are standards for masks, ISO standards mainly but there a number of regulations depending on the regional regulatory requirements.

Regardless of what the data you refuse to look at says, as I've said before there's many jobs that spend their entire careers in masks. We have literally a hundred years of data from surgeons, laboratory workers and high risk industries dealing with harsh fumes and particles.

You are categorically wrong on masks having a negative impact on health. You cling to that because there is zero reason not to wear a mask. You're a coward, who won't take on a very minor inconvenience for others safety. Stop being a selfish little coward.

you have never shown me any data you only tell me what you believe now research "mask mouth" its a starting point

i have provided volumes of data throughout this thread you have only given us what you believe

Where? Not a single reference.

https://www.iso.org/committee/291088.html

Start with the iso standards, they have literature attached to them.

Or even start with the highest cited review which shows they are effective for community, healthcare and infected patients, both well and sick.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7191274/

You are literally talking shit, there's a huge amount of evidence supporting masks, and a few poorly designed and controlled studies opposing. The body of evidence is overwhelming on the side of masks being effective.

Educate yourself before bleating.

This post was edited by SenorNZ on Dec 2 2020 06:25pm

from a medical journal i already posted
its not that I am not providing the dats the problem is you wont find it on purpose
TheNEW ENGLAND JOURNALofMEDICINE
May 21, 2020
Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 EraMichael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H., Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H., Julia Sinclair, M.B.A., Madelyn Pearson, D.N.P., R.N., and Erica S. Shenoy, M.D., Ph.D.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?articleTools=true

page 1 2nd paragragh
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")

page 2 last paragraph
"Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care "
(talisman? in other words its a magical device)


a mask that doesnt work even if it wasnt a scam

you people never read your own stuff much less any body elses stuff

"Medical masks were not effective, and cloth masks even less effective. When used by sick patients randomised controlled trials suggested protection of well contacts."