https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLfdKtAMKEs

FINISH THE FUCKING STORY MAN. WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT ABOUT THE GLANDS?

Go be a cop then tough guy

Show us what ypure made of and say no to a direct order

lol direct order from the mayors office. because cops take those super seriously lol.

So says our resident antifa activist, who when not excusing left-wing violence (by blaming it on PoC, no less) is launching into a violent tirade about how the white supremacist crypto fascists are hiding under his bed.

haha thats fake news sir, they dont let these types into scaly’s gated and armed guarded community and they certainly dont let them into scaly’s aristocratic ivory tower the family has had for multiple centuries

I don't know what this has to do with the sentiments that someone hopes emergency services go denied for people in need.

Let me briefly clarify something that is irking me a bit. Cops. Not fire departments or medical personnel, etc.

I rescind and regret saying that people of CHAZ forfeit their rights to Seattle/Washingston State/US resources as a nature of declaring themselves autonomous. Most importantly because it was indeed callous of me to say, but also that I have re-thought that position. I don't really beleive that or really hope that in my core, I was posting in frustration to the growing movement of many of me and my wife's friends and colleagues calling to defund cops entirely because I truly believe we need them in some sort of capacity for society to function safely (even in CHAZ).

Pertinently, when it comes to preserving lives and the safety and wellbeing of human beings, it should be noted that it is (or at least was) extremely dangerous for police to enter CHAZ right now as an automonous zone that was largely found upon being without police, with some anti-police sentiments, with the presence of heavily armed guards on their region's borders. This danger to their lives must be considered, though I admit I was not referring to this in my OP.

So I do think cops have a duty to respond to things that are extremely dangerous and life-threatening, even if the citizens of the separate region don't want them (such as CHAZ). They must be cautious for their own safety when doing so. But main point of clarification, I feel like your misconstruing my callousness to a whole new level of badness by implying my sentiment (post 131 of this thread) included medics and firefighters and social workers, crisis teams, etc. I was specifically (albeitly callously) referring to police.

Rando claims to know something about the police and fails.

I find no meaningful difference between your clarification and your initial statement, and further don't believe that distinguishing between other forms of emergency service providers and police as relevant to the ethics (or lack thereof) in your original post.

To be clear, your sentiment in essence was that you prioritize the philosophical debate about the role, importance, benefit, or necessity of the police over the well-being of human lives. So much so that you'd want emergency calls from inside the CHAZ that would appropriately be routed to the police under normal circumstances to go unanswered so as to teach them a lesson. There was not a misunderstanding or misconstruing of points. I again humbly encourage you to engage in introspection because that level of callousness is concerning, and I would not be surprised to find that it has woven itself into your personal life in very subtle and insidious ways.

If someone dies in chaz when they could've been saved by fire/health/police personnel then they deserve it