Russia benefits from a weak sovereign like Trump.

They would benefit even more from a socialist in the White House who's even more of an isolationist than Trump.
And senile Joe wouldnt be a much stronger sovereign either.

Well your judgment is shit so....

Joe would be much stronger and experienced. Joe has heard of these problems before becoming president. Trump hadn't heard of things like the right to return. He knows how to spend daddy's money and sleep with prostitutes. King Bone Spur fake tough guy.

This post was edited by Skinned on Mar 7 2020 08:00am

how so?

also, how would bernie be more of an isolationist than trump? he would NOT have abandoned the iran deal or the paris agreement against the expressed concerns of basically every country in the world. he would not have imposed sanctions on america's allies because he simply doesn't understand how trade balances work, or repeatedly shat on NATO because of some infantile understanding of military spending, trying to make money for his buddies in the military industrial complex.

where do you get those ideas?

he calls Trump weak yet voted for candidates that could not even beat him lmao

You're describing a Joe Biden from several years ago, who was still on top of his game. What we'd be getting in 2021 and beyond is an increasingly senile and demented version of him.
The poor dude already doesnt know which day of the week it is, which office he's running for or which of the two blondes next to him is his wife and which one his sister. A grueling campaign and the stress of being president wouldnt make these things any better, dont you think?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 7 2020 08:58am

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/bernie-sanders-doctrine-america-military-foreign-policy/606364/






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Regarding my point that Russia would benefit from Sanders in the White House, the following speaks for itself:

"Sanders calls for new NATO that includes Russia":
https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/260804-sanders-calls-for-new-nato-that-includes-russia

in short: you confuse ACTUAL non-interventionism with isolationism, and think that outweighs the radical isolationist moves that trump made because of his hate for america's first black president, and his poor understanding of basic economic and diplomatic concepts? well, that is just dumb.

regarding russia, you're not making a point. you're linking an article (from 2015) regarding an idea of how to effectively fight ISIS (including scolding the murderous fundamentalist regime in saudi-arabia for their military intervention in yemen, that under trump's weakness and support escalated into a genocide).
you misinterpreting a headline (really should have taken 3 minutes to read the whole article) is NOT an argument. please try to make one that illustrates how russia would benefit from a sanders presidency (more than having the president himself repeatedly and publicly defend russia and its authoritarian leader against ALL his intelligence agencies, have him defy congress for months over sanctions against russia, and refuse to implement measures to secure america's elections against russia's meddling, despite bipartisan committees warning him against continued interference). oh right, you can't - you just picked up some stupid talking points, never questioned them, and now got exposed for the complete lack of substance behind them.

Getting Russia to be our friend from a geopolitical perspective is smart actually. The real adversary and threat is China not Russia. Between the strength of their military and the fact that they provide China with a lot of energy getting them in our camp would be wise for the long game.

Sure, but a close partnership with Russia has to be the endpoint of a long process of tuning down antagonistic behavior and building trust. And a NATO membership of Russia is a complete pipedream, neither realistic nor making strategic sense.