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Aug 1 2019 02:24pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 1 2019 01:34pm)
Literally every Ghot thread lately:

1 [says dumb old timey opinion on how the world should work] - Ghot

2 "That's fucking illegal" - everyone

3 "i dont think it is, have you even read the constitution" - Ghot

4 [posts constitution] - everyone

5 "that's not what that means, DUH, read it again" - Ghot, snarkily

6 [12 people pile on confirming that is how the law works with proof] - everyone

7 [argues semantics that show he still doesnt understand the constitution] - Ghot

8 [punts the poor fella around for 20-30 posts about how his examples are poor, how it's still illegal, and how his semantics don't apply] - everyone

9 "this is just like my opinion guys, i never said it was illegal (just argued when people said it was), and the laws can be changed, and soon we wont have a country" - Ghot



now he's here, supporting unconstitutional free speech attacks, for an authoritarian govt, while arguing pointless semantic history about if they are or arent immigrants, while ignoring half of the attacks by the Chinese.

people called Mueller senile, this guy might forget his name tomorrow.



My favourite part is where he refuses to understand how the right to not be forced to speak a language and the right to speak in any language ones chooses are not one in the same. Well that and how’s he somehow trying to classify people who have always lived where they currently are as immigrants :wacko:
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My favourite part is where he refuses to understand how the right to not be forced to speak a language and the right to speak in any language ones chooses are not one in the same. Well that and how’s he somehow trying to classify people who have always lived where they currently are as immigrants :wacko:


his misunderstandings of the first amendment were astonishing. so many failures from so many different angles. all the while claiming everyone else needed to read again, and that he was right. and like 10 posts before he said blatantly "i dont know if it is or isn't illegal", dropping all of the snark and claims on the 1a shit.

he's card sultan 2.0, a worm who just tries to disagree, and more often than not disagrees with himself and never acknowledges it. give him time, he always comes full circle back.

first post:

Quote (Ghot @ Jul 31 2019 01:50am)
Good for China!

Now before everyone goes ballistic... I've said before and I mean it. Immigrants should assimilate with countries they emigrate to.
Everyone has their own country and their own culture. Emigrating does not give someone the right to set up their own little country in someone elses.


latest post:

"china can do what it wants, if these people aren't immigrants it still doesnt matter, but also they are, they immigrated 1000 years ago when china moved the border over their heads."

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 1 2019 02:29pm
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Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 1 2019 04:22pm)
you're just being silly. people expose the blatant issues with your posts and positions and you squirm to a tangent every time.

all someone had to do was point out the laws affected native muslims and you squirmed over into a pointless history lesson that disproves your own idea that these people are immigrants.

learn to sit down like a man and take an L. you called them immigrants, they aren't, and digging 1000 years back just to avoid saying you're wrong shows how childish and disagreeable you've been all thread.

you still haven't admitted the first amendment applies to business signs. you just squirmed over into "china can do what it wants", after getting schooled on the fact that the USA doesnt have an official language, and after you advocated the USA follows chinas footsteps because of a 25 year old grievance about chinatown before Google maps existed. you even claimed people would get confused by red octagons without "stop" on it. or worse yet "el alto" (wrong spanish), gasp the horror.

this thread wasn't a discussion, it was a gangbang.





Do you somehow have the impression, that YOUR viewpoint will change mine? Do you think that by playing word games you will convince me that it is a better idea to have the signs in a given country in different languages?
I'm really curious about this.

Obviously having the signs in any given country in different languages is.... STOOOOOPID. So I'm honestly curious as to...


1. Why you feel that way.
2. Your reasons for feeling that way.


I mean I've asked this many times in this topic, and still haven't gotten an answer to that.
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Aug 1 2019 02:36pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 1 2019 03:30pm)
Do you somehow have the impression, that YOUR viewpoint will change mine? Do you think that by playing word games you will convince me that it is a better idea to have the signs in a given country in different languages?
I'm really curious about this.

Obviously having the signs in any given country in different languages is.... STOOOOOPID. So I'm honestly curious as to...


1. Why you feel that way.
2. Your reasons for feeling that way.


I mean I've asked this many times in this topic, and still haven't gotten an answer to that.


in my opinion all street signs, by law, SHOULD be in latin text. the 27 letter alphabet more or less.

in my opinion, the govt should never do anything about the language on any signage for any business.

In my opinion, all govt posted signage should be in the same 27 letter alphabet.

not "english", because thats a point i destroyed in 2 seconds with just the street i live on. if they want to call it "Yang Street" that's fine too, even in China town.

the reason you dont get it, is because you havent tried to since the starts. you said "good job China", which implies you want the same done here, as do all of your posts saying you want the same done here. i'm pointing out to you the illegality and the inconsistency with the constitution this presents, in america, where we live.

In america, the country we live in, governed by the guidelines of the constitution and legally bound to it, the govt cant make linguistic changes to a private business' sign, unless the content is lewd such as porn or gore. when i told you this you claimed any business with a store front on a street is "public". i showed you that's not true too. and now here you are accusing me of word games. because i showed you the first amendment, explained it, and explained basic govt/business relationships from a legal standpoint.

learn to take a lesson from people who know more about a topic than you. if i ever need a quality shoe shining balm or lessons on how to microwave meals for one i'll be sure to hit you up.

but to answer overall, i dont give a shit about your opinions, im stating inarguable facts about law, that u argue every time. because you're the one on the leash and im just out for a walk.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 1 2019 02:41pm
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Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 1 2019 03:22pm)
this thread wasn't a discussion, it was a gangbang.


Like I said earlier, OP getting dragged harder than a doctor on a United flight.
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Aug 1 2019 02:42pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Aug 1 2019 03:41pm)
Like I said earlier, OP getting dragged harder than a doctor on a United flight.


hey man he's just responding to tangents and word games. he just wanted a nice peaceful thread about the genocide of Muslim culture!
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Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 1 2019 04:36pm)
in my opinion all street signs, by law, SHOULD be in latin text. the 27 letter alphabet more or less.

in my opinion, the govt should never do anything about the language on any signage for any business.

In my opinion, all govt posted signage should be in the same 27 letter alphabet.

not "english", because thats a point i destroyed in 2 seconds with just the street i live on. if they want to call it "Yang Street" that's fine too, even in China town.

the reason you dont get it, is because you havent tried to since the starts. you said "good job China", which implies you want the same done here, as do all of your posts saying you want the same done here. i'm pointing out to you the illegality and the inconsistency with the constitution this presents, in america, where we live.

In america, the country we live in, governed by the guidelines of the constitution and legally bound to it, the govt cant make linguistic changes to a private businesses sign, unless the content is lewd such as porn or gore. when i told you this you claimed any business with a store front on a street is "public". i showed you that's not true too. and now here you are accusing me of word games. because i showed you the first amendment, explained it, and explained basic govt/business relationships from a legal standpoint.

learn to take a lesson from people who know more about a topic than you. if i ever need a quality shoe shining balm or lessons on how to microwave meals for one i'll be sure to hit you up.




Again... the 1st amendment does NOT prohibit passing a law that all signs should be in the language of this country. That language has 26 letters, btw.

Secondly I have given multiple examples of why this would be a good idea. You have given NONE showing why this would not be a good idea.

A storefront IS public if the public uses it. This is why they have permits, fire inspections, etc., etc.



I guess this is all my fault... because I once again assumed you were an intelligent person, that seriously wanted to discuss this. Apparently I was wrong.



And I'm still waiting to hear WHY you think signs in any number of non-US languages should be allowed in this country.




/e

Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 1 2019 04:42pm)
hey man he's just responding to tangents and word games. he just wanted a nice peaceful thread about the genocide of Muslim culture!



I guess misquoting me is NOT... "word games". :/


/ee Ya know... IF I was stupid enough to fall for your BS, I'd probably have to kill myself.

This post was edited by Ghot on Aug 1 2019 02:49pm
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Quote (Ghot @ Aug 1 2019 03:44pm)
Again... the 1st amendment does NOT prohibit passing a law that all signs should be in the language of this country. That language has 26 letters, btw.

Secondly I have given multiple examples of why this would be a good idea. You have given NONE showing why this would not be a good idea.

A storefront IS public if the public uses it. This is why they have permits, fire inspections, etc., etc.



I guess this is all my fault... because I once again assumed you were an intelligent person, that seriously wanted to discuss this. Apparently I was wrong.



And I'm still waiting to hear WHY you think signs in any number of non-US languages should be allowed in this country.




/e




I guess misquoting me is NOT... "word games". :/


/ee Ya know... IF I was stupid enough to fall for your BS, I'd probably have to kill myself.


The 1a prohibits the govt imposing on the language of signs for private businesses. This is basic stuff. Learn to learn.

Why do I think that? The us constitution. Simple

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Aug 1 2019 03:16pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 1 2019 05:13pm)
The 1a prohibits the govt imposing on the language of signs for private businesses. This is basic stuff. Learn to learn.

Why do I think that? The us constitution. Simple




Well, obviously you don't want to answer. So I guess we're done.
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Quote (Ghot @ Aug 1 2019 04:16pm)
Well, obviously you don't want to answer. So I guess we're done.


I answered. It should be allowed because the 1a allows it. It is the freedom of their speech. Signs are speech. Arguing this shows u don't understand the constitution in even a basic way.
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