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Sep 14 2015 04:24pm
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ 14 Sep 2015 22:41)
Reminds me of a story in the Bible about how Jesus predicted that Peter would deny knowledge of Christ three times before the cock crowed, he did it to save his own skin much like "taqiya" forgives the Muslim for lying about their faith when under extreme pressure. Peter went on to be a central figure in establishing the Christian churches and spreading the good news of Jesus.


In the same way the Talmud about the "no judes" is so hilarious, when you read it you only end in the conclusion to erradicate all no judes immediately.



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Sep 14 2015 05:53pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 13 2015 12:27pm)
They are years from a nuke even if they are racing for it. Mossad even admits this. They can only delay for 24 days and if they are delaying too much we will start reinstating sanctions.


And that's not even the real way the "24 day" issue works. I think that confusion is what the "they can just stall!" criticism is based on. The 14+10 day period(s) pertain to undeclared sites, and not the declared sites that monitors have daily access to. The threat that those undeclared sites pose is so microscopic now thanks to actually having an enforcement mechanism and the real threat has been frozen.

Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 13 2015 12:23pm)
I have read the agreement.


You say that but you continue to get the details wrong. They've already allowed access. With the level of transparency they now have to operate under, delay is no longer a tactic that can help them accomplish anything other than making the situation worse for them. Given that they'd still have to sell the international community on the rationale for that delay there's virtually nothing harmful they could accomplish in 14-24 days.

Giving up so much of their stockpile makes biding time less of a threat as it would have been otherwise. if you're actually aware of the terms of the agreement then I trust you'll recognize this. Maybe if they had made absolutely no material concessions then waiting around for ten years wouldn't be such a big deal, but they did make those material concessions. Dramatically reducing their centrifuges and uranium on its own would have been a massive victory.
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