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Jan 22 2015 05:20pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Jan 22 2015 05:17pm)
pvp me ill rek u 5-0


penis versus penis? it would be hard to have a 0" penis but im glad you have a 5"
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Jan 22 2015 06:24pm
Quote (Shakti @ Jan 22 2015 05:20pm)
Thats kind of sad.

If you were married, would you not care about the personal happiness of your wife?

Or do you not care about the well being of your siblings if you have any?

y so selfish :(


All things are nothing to me. :drool:

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p v ~p

That is all.


Oh, boy.

Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 22 2015 04:59pm)
it's male and not male, if you're going to talk about binary do it right


Think you've been in SQL land a bit too long there.
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Jan 22 2015 06:30pm
Quote (Gastly @ Jan 22 2015 04:45pm)
so... if we are to presume that there is a huge conspiracy to stop research from being done, submitted and reviewed?
well, i can grant you that much. now how about a nice little rant about cultural marxism? i mean, that liberal bias must be the only reasons to why 18:th century racial theories and whatnot have generally fallen out of favour.
there's a reason to why Papua New-Guinea and Amazon are popular places for research.

it takes a whole new sort of silly to presume that humans aren't beings that work and act according to their environments, in the environments and in the world. it's kind of the reason to why there's humans from Greenland to Australia. it's also the reason to the huge amount of practices, norms and rules and variation within them that can be found.
the Fa'afafine of Samoa really exemplify what i'm getting at.


Conspiracy, lol, that would imply some kind of minority standing. It is openly flaunted and biological explanations are instantly dismissed for cultural conclusions, I bet there's a thread right now on the front page concluding cultural factors over nature, have a look.

It would be silly to assume that environments take place in a vacuum on their own and that humans are separated completely as blank slates completely produced from where they are, free from biological factors, which is what most cultural determinists would have you believe if follow closely to the way they frame things, the rhetoric, and context used too. You will also notice they stay away from biological conclusions unless there's no possible way they could weasel out of them, I would say Anthropology takes a huge hit from the culture dogma crowd, as for the other parts of the humanities, no hope for them.

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Jan 22 2015 06:30pm
Quote (j0ltk0la @ Jan 22 2015 05:36pm)
Apparently, you don't understand what negligible means, if an unsubstantial amount of people are born freaks, why would I even consider them as anything but outside of the norm, potentially genetic refuse. First we should cover some ground rules, do you understand what normal is? In the realm of the norm, there is a binary and all-else is outside of this.

Maybe you can do binary math, since you're so keen on bringing up math

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if Male or Female:
True
else:
False


So there are two binaries here, the first condition determines if you're human (e.g., male or female) and all else is rightfully discarded into the binary bin. There's no reason to go beyond a base-2 system of understanding for gender, there is only male or female and anything apart from this is a natural abomination, evolution's test of my resolve most likely.


There's no reason to maintain a base-2 system for gender, especially when there are literally 6 (or more?) different chromosomal sexes. I'm sorry you have a phobia of the abnormal.
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Jan 22 2015 06:38pm
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There's no reason to maintain a base-2 system for gender, especially when there are literally 6 (or more?) different chromosomal sexes. I'm sorry you have a phobia of the abnormal.


save your breath he is not acknowledging known scientific research on the subject of sex vs. gender and instead clings to the statistical minority of unaligned sex-gender individuals to classify them as abnormal and therefore prove that there are only 2 genders.
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Jan 22 2015 06:44pm
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There's no reason to maintain a base-2 system for gender, especially when there are literally 6 (or more?) different chromosomal sexes. I'm sorry you have a phobia of the abnormal.


Phobia is a nice listen sometimes but it doesn't come close to describing my feelings for the abnormal, completely neutral towards them as evolution has natural processes for dealing with deviation.

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save your breath he is not acknowledging known scientific research on the subject of sex vs. gender and instead clings to the statistical minority of unaligned sex-gender individuals to classify them as abnormal and therefore prove that there are only 2 genders.


I'm not acknowledging distinction because they simply don't matter, abnormal gender groups can be in their own category, without affecting the normal Male/Female divide, which will function as a binary regardless of insignificant abnormalities and other natural accidents.

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Jan 22 2015 06:51pm
Quote (j0ltk0la @ Jan 22 2015 07:44pm)
Phobia is a nice listen sometimes but it doesn't come close to describing my feelings for the abnormal, completely neutral towards them as evolution has natural processes for dealing with deviation.


The natural processes you are referring to are d2jsp users that don't like genders outside the normal binary?

If evolution deals with deviation as you say, then why are you concerned with doing anything about it? Or are you not, you're just stating they're abnormal? In which case, so?
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Jan 22 2015 06:54pm
Quote (j0ltk0la @ Jan 22 2015 06:44pm)

I'm not acknowledging distinction because they simply don't matter, abnormal gender groups can be in their own category, without affecting the normal Male/Female divide, which will function as a binary regardless of insignificant abnormalities and other natural accidents.


scientifically incorrect. Gender is a proven spectrum, spectrums are no subject to binary categorization. And you keep stating normal male/female like you have studies to back it up, when the reality is studies have forever backed that all places on the gender spectrum are very common except the ends which are the statistical outliers you are continually describing. Studies don't support there only being masculine/male and feminine/female as statistically significant percentages, that's just the simple fact you keep grazing over.
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Jan 22 2015 06:59pm
Quote (j0ltk0la @ Jan 23 2015 03:30am)
Conspiracy, lol, that would imply some kind of minority standing. It is openly flaunted and biological explanations are instantly dismissed for cultural conclusions

much substantive research has been done in New-Guinea and Amazon - i left mentions about them there in my post and kind of expected you to do some thinking. are neighbouring tribes that different?

Quote (j0ltk0la @ Jan 23 2015 03:30am)
I bet there's a thread right now on the front page concluding cultural factors over nature.

front page? i'm sorry that the academia doesn't follow your personal convictions. if you want to do research that specialises in Stormfront propaganda or propaganda .jpgs from /pol/ you're more than free to do so.

Quote (j0ltk0la @ Jan 23 2015 03:30am)
It would be silly to assume that environments take place in a vacuum on their own and that humans are separated completely as blank slates completely produced from where they are, free from biological factors, which is what most cultural determinists would have you believe if follow closely to the way they frame things, the rhetoric, and context used too. You will also notice they stay away from biological conclusions unless there's no possible way they could weasel out of them

so is it biological differences that drive these differences between gender roles and whatnot? i'm really not quite following you here. what kind of an evolution has gone on in, say, Europe with such rapid changes in peoples' lifes and lifestyles in all possible fields? how rapid was evolution with the switch from hunter-gathering to agriculture?
can we expect giant grasshoppers or spooky b-class horror movie shit like that to take over if mutations like that persist?

conspiracy-theories & alleged imaginary people that argue such and such, whoop-dee-doo

This post was edited by Gastly on Jan 22 2015 07:04pm
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Jan 22 2015 10:27pm
I saw a big wall of text so I decided to ignore it given the OP. It's probably the same tired drivel...wahhhh someone's morality disagrees with mine wahhhh.
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