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#161
Sep 11 2012 05:31am
Quote (Skinned @ Sep 11 2012 11:27am)
I can't believe these old arguments are being rehashed again.


I know right?

Hating the evil big government is apparently more important to these folks than actually trying to find out what happens. (and you can actually dislike government without being a conspiracy theorist, there are a few on this subforum)

This post was edited by balrog66 on Sep 11 2012 05:35am
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#162
Sep 11 2012 05:31am
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That's why I posted the threads from the last 2 years. We had an even more in-depth discussion, close to 30 pages the year before, iirc.

Where's Sinbad when you need him?  :rofl:


This is going to be like the moon landing. It is faked!

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#163
Sep 11 2012 05:33am
Quote (Skinned @ Sep 11 2012 04:28am)
Is as bad to say as anything Westboro Church does.

Well, that phrase makes me giggle for some reason. Westboro doesn't, but yeah, they're both bad.
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#164
Sep 11 2012 05:36am
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many papers stipulated that the fire caused by the fuel as well as the contents of the building burning afterwards made the steal columns weaken a certain degree.
the part that as far as i know is unexplained is the heat transfer between the jet fuel fires and the contents of the building burning to the steal itself
it is basically thermodynamics and lots of math... a more complex version of a model that says an ice cube would melt at this or that rate if you hold a lighter to it for this long.. etc


I thought that was pretty straightforward. Plane impacts building, with inertia vastly greater than that planned by the design, breaks portions of the flame retardant from the I beams, and a combination of uneven expansion/contraction coupled with steel being weakened to roughly 50% of its load capacity, then collapse.
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#165
Sep 11 2012 05:37am
Quote (Santara @ Sep 11 2012 04:36am)
I thought that was pretty straightforward. Plane impacts building, with inertia vastly greater than that planned by the design, breaks portions of the flame retardant from the I beams, and a combination of uneven expansion/contraction coupled with steel being weakened to roughly 50% of its load capacity, then collapse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYE-IYM9v4I
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#166
Sep 11 2012 05:39am
Quote (Santara @ Sep 11 2012 01:36pm)
I thought that was pretty straightforward. Plane impacts building, with inertia vastly greater than that planned by the design, breaks portions of the flame retardant from the I beams, and a combination of uneven expansion/contraction coupled with steel being weakened to roughly 50% of its load capacity, then collapse.


before u conclude how much the steal weakened u have to know how much heat it absorbed right?
and its not straightforward there is a huge section in the nist report ont his topic and in fact a sophisticated software had to be build to simulate it
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#167
Sep 11 2012 05:40am
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I thought that was pretty straightforward. Plane impacts building, with inertia vastly greater than that planned by the design, breaks portions of the flame retardant from the I beams, and a combination of uneven expansion/contraction coupled with steel being weakened to roughly 50% of its load capacity, then collapse.


He wants a 30 page study on why the fire was hot.
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#168
Sep 11 2012 05:43am
Quote (DieTryin' @ Sep 11 2012 11:37am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYE-IYM9v4I


Seriously? Psychologists try and find symptoms of denial in the public, therefore 9/11 is a hoax?

The statue of Liberty couldn't make a big enough facepalm right now.
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#169
Sep 11 2012 05:45am
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He wants a 30 page study on why the fire was hot.


Because the atoms composing fire move very very fast?
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#170
Sep 11 2012 05:47am
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Seriously? Psychologists try and find symptoms of denial in the public, therefore 9/11 is a hoax?

The statue of Liberty couldn't make a big enough facepalm right now.

It's normal for people to be in denial for a lie so big. People fear these things on such a deep level.
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