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Jul 14 2026 12:41pm
America: the country a lot of people hate, but NO ONE wants to leave...


This is a complex statement, most people do not hate america, they just don't like american foreign policy. If 50% of America does not like a US president at any one time, then is it so wrong to accept the notion that 50% of the world does not like him either when America (or rather, the American President) unilaterally starts bombing countries around the world. Also when you say no one wants to leave, Again, its back to the US president. Some Americans DO want to and DO move away from America. Especially now more then ever with such polarised politics.

But America was, for a long time, the land of the free and it was set up with open borders and had a sizeable working population that are/were not full American citizens. The US is currently in the process of kicking these people out, and naturally noting this culture is very embedded, there will be issues with this.
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Jul 14 2026 12:55pm
This is a complex statement, most people do not hate america, they just don't like american foreign policy. If 50% of America does not like a US president at any one time, then is it so wrong to accept the notion that 50% of the world does not like him either when America (or rather, the American President) unilaterally starts bombing countries around the world. Also when you say no one wants to leave, Again, its back to the US president. Some Americans DO want to and DO move away from America. Especially now more then ever with such polarised politics.

But America was, for a long time, the land of the free and it was set up with open borders and had a sizeable working population that are/were not full American citizens. The US is currently in the process of kicking these people out, and naturally noting this culture is very embedded, there will be issues with this.


Its not bombs though. Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush, then dropped more bombs than he did...

As far as asylum seekers and/or illegal immigrants go... them coming and working here is fine. The problems start when you give these people benefits that are paid for by US taxpayers.

Obama also deported more people than Trump...

I didn't vote for Trump but the Trump derangement syndrome on both sides is hilarious. People who only see his flaws and then the people who literally think he's the 2nd coming of Christ.

Fact check: did Obama really deport more people than Trump? https://share.google/VDVVCAfT05PV4Qad0

America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign | Medea Benjamin | The Guardian https://share.google/hiMDhdKWygrvrYlsE
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Jul 14 2026 01:08pm
Its not bombs though. Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush, then dropped more bombs than he did...

As far as asylum seekers and/or illegal immigrants go... them coming and working here is fine. The problems start when you give these people benefits that are paid for by US taxpayers.

Obama also deported more people than Trump...

I didn't vote for Trump but the Trump derangement syndrome on both sides is hilarious. People who only see his flaws and then the people who literally think he's the 2nd coming of Christ.

Fact check: did Obama really deport more people than Trump? https://share.google/VDVVCAfT05PV4Qad0

America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign | Medea Benjamin | The Guardian https://share.google/hiMDhdKWygrvrYlsE


Your missing the point, the majority of the world does not care who sits in the white house. so, in american you can have a democrat or a republican in office, but US foreign policy, regardless of who is in office, is pretty much the same.
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Jul 14 2026 02:00pm
Your missing the point, the majority of the world does not care who sits in the white house. so, in american you can have a democrat or a republican in office, but US foreign policy, regardless of who is in office, is pretty much the same.


I do not concur 100% but I understand what you are saying.
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Jul 14 2026 02:07pm
I do not concur 100% but I understand what you are saying.


Would be odd, if it were the opposite

This post was edited by Norlander on Jul 14 2026 02:08pm
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Jul 15 2026 10:14am
What did I say fkers




This is the real world cup final today. If England can get past the cheating Moroccan ref that has always officiated over wins for Messi, and the Italian and South Americans on VAR, and Argentina cheating themselves... Spain is finished.
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Jul 15 2026 10:27am
And what say the scholars regarding this matter: is it befitting for the believer to champion England, seeing that it stands alone as the last Muslim nation remaining in the competition?
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Jul 15 2026 10:33am
And what say the scholars regarding this matter: is it befitting for the believer to champion England, seeing that it stands alone as the last Muslim nation remaining in the competition?


I just asked them, the scholars say fk off

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Jul 15 2026 11:06am
I just asked them, the scholars say fk off


The scholars spoke, and they spoke of you. The elders of this land, now ruled by an Emir who once knelt before Christ, have made their counsel clear. You asked; they answered. Take their advice and walk.
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I just asked them, the scholars say fk off


How many English players does England have?
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