Were not talking about transgender athletes here, I have made my stance quite clear on that and that they belong either in their own league, which hopefully there's so few that, that never gets traction OR they play in a league they were born into aka penis or vagina. That keeps every other issue consistent, sports, change room / bathroom segregation, etc.


What were discussing now is Swyer syndrome which is not a male switching to a female to be better at sports. This is a person born with a vagina that I gaurantee 99% of this people that don't want her competing in female sports also don't want her in the female bathroom / change room. We want to just create an entire different rule set that applies to various situations in life.

I think its significantly more rational to say this person won a genetic lotterly that makes her better at the sport.

To the point of people saying this is some miniscule % but could dominate all female sports? Where they at then honestly, because no its not just XX these people also need to have skill and want to actually compete. Hence why we don't people with Swyer syndrome dominating all the female podiums.

This is all blowing up because there obviously is a dumb woke wave happening, which I agree with. If we didn't have this silly woke shit happening around first world countries right now I am willing to bet this would absolutely be a nonissue.

I think you have to draw a line and again since its so few born with that syndrome and even less so that compete in sports clearly I am fine with genitalia essentially. Some will believe we should carve specific rulesets, its going to be a matter of opinion.

But in this woke world, happy to keep simplistic and that's what's between your legs at birth. Never thought that would get heat from both right and left, normally just the left goes after me.



This post was edited by SBD on Aug 6 2024 09:53am

It runs parallel to social norms and acceptance. Is it a surprise that all of this is ramping up as trans rights have become front and center? Of course not. But that's why i say in 4-8 years. If all countries get the signal, hey this is what is the acceptable norm is and we know these athletes will have an inherent advantage over XX women, why wouldn't we pack all female sports categories with such athletes. IMO, this is a trial balloon and could be a precursor to it becoming much more prevalent in female pro sports arms race.

It’s very noticeable that if you were to see someone in public, you can tell right away if someone’s a man or a woman. This man doesn’t wear a bra, with a dudes face plus the fact that he was disqualified last year raises a lot of suspicions, otherwise it wouldn’t even be a topic.

If there’s so much controversy then take a test and show the world that he’s not a man.

I said several times that if the IOC runs another test and it shows that the athletes have xx chromosomes I'm fine with them competing against other women.

Russian disinfo? How hard would it be for any sports organization to immediately crush that Russian disinfo by running a test?? How many certified labs out there that can easily do this??

The IOC didn't run another test, they pointed out that the athletes are woman cuz passport says so

How many doping tests do they run? How many fucking Covid tests were run on a daily basis not too long ago???

Can't run a gender test though that's just too much in 2024 at the Wokelympics

This post was edited by Djunior on Aug 6 2024 10:00am

I honestly don't think that's going to be the case, Swyer syndrom again has been around forever and we could have done that for the past X years but it has not and I am clearly in the opinion that this current dumb woke climate is not going to be the conduit that leads us down that road, if anything I think eventually this fad is going to come to an end and the current woke crowd that promotes transgenders in sports will eventually realize that they are doing the exact opposite of promoting inclusiveness by just letting biological males run rampant.

Swyer syndrome is such a meniscal % like I mentioned but obviously being born a male vs female at birth is not, basically 50/50 and so yes that's very much an issue if you allow the other 50% of the population potentially compete in the other 50%'s designated league and if there's money to be made of potentially being a sports star there's incentive, but for Swyer syndrome, you're not making active choice, you were born with a vagina and you might play sports, you might not, I don't think its going to be some rise to dominating the podium from those individuals. These are just a very very small population of people born with some defect they probably didn't want and I doubt were going to see some groups out there saying well you could be a sports star lets transform you from an early stage into one to beat out other females.

Transgender on the other hand, well you're actively making that choice and there certainly could be the intent to just go dominate and to hell with those that would do that.

I am willing to bet though without this woke climate we wouldn't be talking about this. We would probably be raving about how they have a genetic advantage and wow they will dominate for years to come yet! I would almost guarantee that's probably the direction the conversation would be going, but because so many people are fed up with everything its a major debate item now.

This post was edited by SBD on Aug 6 2024 10:12am

Who let you out of your cage?

Some kind moderator. I suspect most people on your list should be up for warn removal. I had mine extended due to additional warning so those guys must mostly be up by now unless they got more extensions than me.

This post was edited by SBD on Aug 6 2024 10:29am

Welcome back! This place gets a lil bit boring without the regular posters

Yeah, regardless of if someone gets under your skin in an argument, you need a counterpoints to exist if you want to have a debate, sometimes light is shed on a viewpoint you never even considered. Makes it better.

Swayer syndrom is usually accompanied by low levels of testosterone.
An interesting read:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30136295/

It's almost impossible for any type of "female" competitor to have testosterone levels of an average male without doping.
IOC should test her Gens, XY is a clear indication of a male constitition. You can't let a man beat up a woman in a combat sport and call it fair.