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Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 16 2023 05:34pm)
Nature isn't a singular being but a concept we ascribe to the collective of the physical world around us. It "wouldn't care" because it's not conscious. But care vs not caring doesn't really matter in the context of the impact it would have on both the collective and the parts that make it up.

Parts of it would recover, other parts may not. If a black bear's population is wiped out due to the nuke impact, radiation or the subsequent cooling/food chain collapse, that bear species isn't magically going to sprout 200 years later when the dust settles and radiation gets tolerable. Many such cases would exist, with recovery to what it was before never to be really reachable.


black bears will eventually vanish, man will too. Time is a concept for us, its hardly a concept for our planet. Look I am not saying pollute and shoot, cause it doesnt matter. It DOES matter, but it matter FOR US.

So saying the worst that ever happened to nature is humanity is a bit of a silly statement, cause whatever we do to this planet is eventually something we do to ourselves. Its not save the planet, its save ourselves. The planet recovered from catastrophic events millions of years before the first human ancestors ever came into existence. We and the time we lived on this planet so far is extremely insignificant and what wr did to this planet is also extremely insignificant in the bigger picture.
People should realize that "saving the planet" is a false statement. It is "Saving our goddamn skin!"
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Nov 16 2023 08:20pm)
yes an everlasting loving forgiving kind.. that however if you break his rules will make you burn in fire for eternity.
Lives in the sky, and had a guy build a boat the fit all the animals on the earth aboard..
its WAAY more far fetched than Santa :santa:


go to about 30 seconds in and watch until the end... haha.


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Quote (Budgeting @ Nov 16 2023 10:41pm)
how do u turn off notifications for threads, i refreshed and had 16 pages worth of notifications wtf


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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 16 2023 11:05pm)
black bears will eventually vanish, man will too. Time is a concept for us, its hardly a concept for our planet. Look I am not saying pollute and shoot, cause it doesnt matter. It DOES matter, but it matter FOR US.

So saying the worst that ever happened to nature is humanity is a bit of a silly statement, cause whatever we do to this planet is eventually something we do to ourselves. Its not save the planet, its save ourselves. The planet recovered from catastrophic events millions of years before the first human ancestors ever came into existence. We and the time we lived on this planet so far is extremely insignificant and what wr did to this planet is also extremely insignificant in the bigger picture.
People should realize that "saving the planet" is a false statement. It is "Saving our goddamn skin!"


even if the best was done genetic drift would still spell the end of it all
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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 17 2023 02:05am)
black bears will eventually vanish, man will too. Time is a concept for us, its hardly a concept for our planet. Look I am not saying pollute and shoot, cause it doesnt matter. It DOES matter, but it matter FOR US.

So saying the worst that ever happened to nature is humanity is a bit of a silly statement, cause whatever we do to this planet is eventually something we do to ourselves. Its not save the planet, its save ourselves. The planet recovered from catastrophic events millions of years before the first human ancestors ever came into existence. We and the time we lived on this planet so far is extremely insignificant and what wr did to this planet is also extremely insignificant in the bigger picture.
People should realize that "saving the planet" is a false statement. It is "Saving our goddamn skin!"


https://michaellaitman.medium.com/nature-vs-human-nature-f2aa9981e81e

again, you're almost describing human nature perfectly...




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Man, on the other hand, takes the laws of nature he discovers and seeks to use them against others. Man’s goal is not to sustain himself, but to dominate others, and for as long as possible. There is neither balance in man’s mind, nor dynamism. There is permanent self-absorption.


i dont fully agree with the quote above. in my opinion, its not that man is necessarily wanting to dominate others, but rather that its willing and capable of preserving itself at the expense of others. and this is how we differ from other animals.
this is also from a large scale perspective. im not talking about a lion taking down a single gazel because she's hungry. that is what was intended by nature. i mean things like large scale deforestation and such because we need to farm palm oil for nutella.

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Quote (Bazi @ Nov 17 2023 09:34am)
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Quote (El1te @ Nov 17 2023 12:13am)
as an enlightened atheist you should be able to figure this out for yourself..




eat a dick i figured it out before you did this, GG
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