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Aug 2 2023 11:42am
Quote (MildSambal @ Aug 2 2023 01:38pm)
It isn’t about demographics, except social status. The CIA works for the interests of the wealthy, anyone who is not in that class is a potential target


they had to start somewhere, historically it was targeting the blacks and gays.

This is why there is so much information from the african american community in america about how they were oppressed in ways that made no sense to the whites.

They were given lesser quality food for example.

So it's a historical understanding, How they will evolve it to a wider non-demographic based system.

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so ask yourself why can't everyone have healthy food...

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Aug 2 2023 11:47am
Quote (El1te @ Aug 2 2023 12:42pm)
I think a big issue with food waste that is often overlooked is America's culture of frivolous lawsuits. It is economically advantageous for a grocer to throw out any food that is even slightly below par to protect themselves from lawsuits.

This also applies to Canada & other Anglosphere nations. Too much regulation & fear of making someone sick.


Which also results in a lot of edible food being thrown into a dumpster that ends up getting eaten by desperate homeless people out of the dumpster anyways or just wasted.
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Aug 2 2023 11:47am
Quote (Mondain @ Aug 2 2023 12:36pm)
You were talking about ghetto areas, I think you're crossing wires.

They put the cheap unhealthy food in those grocery stores because those people are considered "useless eaters" NOT MY WORDS.


Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 2 2023 12:39pm)
I live in the inner city and the largest grocery store from my house is a low cost/targeting poor people supermarket. What I found, and generally think it's true is many grocers will carry things that are in demand. I mean it's not rocket science, you have historical sales of X, if X is consistently selling you stock shelves with X and not other things.

We have a huge Hispanic/South Asian (mostly Thai) population so you see a ton of Goya products and a ton of spices and fresh fruits and vegetables typically popular in east Asian cuisine. I actually see a fuck ton more specific type of fruits and vegetables compared to maybe a nice grocery store in the suburbs where it's mostly white. Things like fresh ginger, Asian pears, plantains, etc, you don't find in the same abundance at those other suburban grocers.

I don't really think there's this huge conspiracy theory here, most of the time laws of supply and demand find the equilibrium and that's what we see.


void is correct, X is demanded because it costs a lower price and lower wealth people can buy it and subsist off of it. to mondain, u said it wasn't about wealth. that's silly. the cia didnt put that food there, the market did, and the market is driven by wealth not the CIA.

now if u want to talk about the CIA planting drugs in ghettos in the 80s, or guns, sure. that's valid. but the rest is silly.
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Aug 2 2023 11:48am
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 2 2023 01:47pm)
void is correct, X is demanded because it costs a lower price and lower wealth people can buy it and subsist off of it. to mondain, u said it wasn't about wealth. that's silly. the cia didnt put that food there, the market did, and the market is driven by wealth not the CIA.

now if u want to talk about the CIA planting drugs in ghettos in the 80s, or guns, sure. that's valid. but the rest is silly.


wealth is a non-factor when you're backed by the private federal reserve ...
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Aug 2 2023 11:48am
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 2 2023 10:28am)
why does a grocery store in the more rich suburbs have higher quality food than the ghetto supermarket that's 10 miles away?

transportation and refrigeration costs are surely a factor, but as to the rest i dont even.


I think there's a few factors in play in this scenario that are largely socioeconomic

In the ghetto supermarket, the customer base is less likely to buy fresh whole foods that require preparation (which requires capital in itself - a kitchen for example, and free time/energy to prepare it) and so it is less economical to stock these items which require refrigeration (additional capital costs). The ghetto supermarket would be losing money stocking and maintaining these fresh whole foods that no one buys.

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Aug 2 2023 11:50am
Quote (El1te @ Aug 2 2023 12:48pm)
I think there's a few factors in play in this scenario that are largely socioeconomic

In the ghetto supermarket, the customer base is less likely to buy fresh whole foods that require preparation (which requires capital in itself - a kitchen for example, and free time/energy to prepare it) and so it is less economical to stock these items which require refrigeration. The ghetto supermarket would be losing money stocking and maintaining these fresh whole foods that no one buys.


i agree, it's the other dude who thinks grocery stores stock shit food because the CIA tells them to, not me.
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Aug 2 2023 11:53am
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 2 2023 01:50pm)
i agree, it's the other dude who thinks grocery stores stock shit food because the CIA tells them to, not me.


I didn't say that.

elite makes good points.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 2 2023 10:50am)
i agree, it's the other dude who thinks grocery stores stock shit food because the CIA tells them to, not me.


I mean his general point about food transport & preventing spoilage is absolutely correct when we are talking about remote communities that are undeveloped without arable land, and just food distribution in general. But in a developed city itself of course there are other many factors to consider
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Aug 2 2023 11:57am
Quote (El1te @ Aug 2 2023 10:54am)
I mean his general point about food transport & preventing spoilage is absolutely correct when we are talking about remote communities that are undeveloped without arable land, and just food distribution in general. But in a developed city itself of course there are other many factors to consider


Also to add the point about food spoilage - its a tremendous cost to keep fresh food from spoiling, thus it must be economically justified. It has everything to do with economics and physical constraints

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Aug 2 2023 12:00pm
Quote (Mondain @ Aug 2 2023 10:36am)
You were talking about ghetto areas, I think you're crossing wires.

They put the cheap unhealthy food in those grocery stores because those people are considered "useless eaters" NOT MY WORDS.


It's not a conspiracy in this case, its just economics - people in the ghetto have no interest in buying fresh foods so there is no justification for stocking them
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