Opposition politics is a downward spiral. Let's hope it swings before the left pushes shit as whacky as birther conspiracies.

Following that was Joe saying he's a conservative in favor of tax cuts, except a couple minutes later he explains that tax cuts aren't going to grow the economy or encourage corporations to invest more in their business.

This is Joe's shtick these days... claim to be a conservative and then criticize every conservative piece of legislation that comes out.

I agree with your assesment of his shtick generally. I think there Hes taking about a more middle America centered cut tho

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 20 2017 09:26am

Yea Trump, yea GOP, yeah everyone...the tax bill, is law.





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Here's the tax bill ....details...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-provisions-factbox/factbox-whats-in-the-final-u-s-republican-tax-bill-idUSKBN1EA023



It's not near as bad as folks feared.

This post was edited by Ghot on Dec 20 2017 02:37pm

It’s going to be a close election

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For married couples filing jointly, effective Jan. 1, 2018 and ending in 2026, income tax would be:

So they kicked the can down the road for normal people. Got it. Just enough to get them elected again and then its the blue teams problem.



Also not good ^^ The very people this is supposed to help are going to feel pain when they need healthcare and fucking with Alaska shouldnt happen. It would be nice to not suck the life from ALL nice places.

This post was edited by Brian_D on Dec 20 2017 06:03pm

'ending in 2026'
except they're going to vote to renew the tax cuts by then, just like what happened with the Bush tax cuts
and they're quite open about it: The temporary cut-off is just a method to fit it under the $1.5T limit to make it palatable to the freedom caucus while everyone in the GOP plans on making them permanent anyway, because it gives them enough to get them elected again when they campaign on it, puts democrats into a bad place where they have to grudgingly embrace the tax cuts after first voting against them, and they know full well that it can't fail because voting for a tax hike is political suicide

No they didn't just kick the can down the road. read it again, all of it, and try to be objective.

As for the Obamacare mandate... You are claiming it's not fair to poor people, when it's blatantly not fair for people working for a living to overpay enough to support those not working or too poor.
The problem is the COST of health insurance. It is not the govts. right to make those who worked their asses off, pay for those that are too poor to buy health insurance.
You should be attacking the insurers, who are overcharging.

The first time I heard about Obamacare fining people who didn't want to buy insurance, I was like...wtf ?!?
That's like the govt. telling folks they HAD to buy.....tuna fish, even if they didn't want to. I doubt that the forced to buy health insurance part of Obamacare is even legal.



On another note, just reading through the US politics part of Reuters...it seems the Dems are starting to foam at the mouth. Getting ...rabid, even.

https://www.reuters.com/politics