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Dec 15 2017 03:23pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 15 2017 03:19pm)
Was Teddy a hawk for speaking softly and carrying a big stick? I don't know how much you can divorce Trump's military spending interests from his economic interests, for all we know he'd be glad to sign a budget for the military to go dig holes in the ground and fill them up again, his rhetoric be damned
If it was a scale of 1-10 I'd say based on the syria and yemen data points contrasted with myanmar we'd still put Trump somewhere above the middle, more hawkish than neutral, but so far just a tad.
I think 'non-interventionalist' just describes the difference between neutral and hawkish, whereas between dove and neutral it would be a measure of scaling back our foreign involvement, of which pretty much only Ron Paul / Rand Paul qualify
Now can I count the state department axing towards that? I don't know. Seems like there are plenty of other reasons.


im still confused why he didnt take the easy out, that being redirecting military to the borders. kills two birds with one stone and give good optics of him not wanting to subject more vets to foreign wars. can even invoke some biblical stories to justify it if need be. then call himself a hero for saving on military budget by also building the wall so it doesnt incur further taxes.

to add, i feel the recent embassy move in Israel is a data point, although mostly due to optics and not actual body count.
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Dec 15 2017 05:26pm
U.S. judge to lift house arrest for former Trump campaign manager Manafort

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort/u-s-judge-to-lift-house-arrest-for-former-trump-campaign-manager-manafort-idUSKBN1E92OG

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He will be subject to restrictions including a curfew and electronic GPS monitoring but will be allowed to leave his home in Alexandria for his home in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, once he meets the conditions.


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In case the forfeited properties do not raise $10 million, the judge said, Manafort’s wife, Kathleen, has deposited $5 million in an account and his daughter Andrea Manafort Shand, $2 million in a separate account, to make up any difference. The assets cannot be touched without a court order.

Once in Florida, Manafort must stay within the area, unless he is traveling to Washington for court appearances or meetings with counsel, according to the order. He needs permission for any other domestic travel and cannot leave the country.




Almost seems that it would have been far easier just to stay in Alexandria, VA.




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Final Republican tax bill slashes U.S. corporate rate: summary

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax/final-republican-tax-bill-slashes-u-s-corporate-rate-summary-idUSKBN1E91ZI

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But three Republican senators, enough to defeat the measure, were still uncommitted: Susan Collins, Jeff Flake and Mike Lee. With Democrats solidly opposed, Republicans can afford to lose only two votes from within their ranks and still win passage in a chamber that Trump’s party controls by a slim 52-48 margin.



And Cain of Arizona, may not be healthy enough to vote. He is recovering from brain surgery.

The stock market is going wild about all this. Kinda makes me wish I had a horse in the stock market race.




Trump officials brief Hill staff on Saudi reactors, enrichment a worry

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nuclear-saudi/trump-officials-brief-hill-staff-on-saudi-reactors-enrichment-a-worry-idUSKBN1E92M1

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration briefed congressional staff this week on how the White House was considering non-proliferation standards in a potential pact to sell nuclear reactor technology to Saudi Arabia, but did not indicate whether allowing uranium enrichment would be part of any deal, congressional aides said.



Kinda makes me wonder if this won't be just a local deterrent to Iran.

This post was edited by Ghot on Dec 15 2017 05:36pm
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Dec 15 2017 05:31pm
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U.S. judge to lift house arrest for former Trump campaign manager Manafort

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort/u-s-judge-to-lift-house-arrest-for-former-trump-campaign-manager-manafort-idUSKBN1E92OG







Almost seems that it would have been far easier just to stay in Alexandria, VA.

maybe he can rent a boat and escape to cuba? ^_^
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Dec 15 2017 05:38pm
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maybe he can rent a boat and escape to cuba? ^_^


:lol:
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Dec 15 2017 05:42pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 15 2017 06:31pm)
maybe he can rent a boat and escape to cuba? ^_^




That's sorta what I was thinking. Besides warmer weather, I don't see why he cares. Unless there is some other motivation, say certain contacts or similar, in Florida.
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Dec 15 2017 07:27pm
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Great thing about playing both sides of the field is you're always right.

Yay hindsight!
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Dec 15 2017 09:41pm
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One right call one wrong call, he's batting .500 on alabama
He wastes a lot of political capital by sticking up for a kiddie-diddler, but was backed into a corner to do it

Just one more example of how the extremist fringes of both parties are being self-destructive
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Dec 16 2017 12:54pm
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/16/health/cdc-banned-words/index.html

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In a 90-minute briefing on Thursday, policy analysts at the nation's leading public health institute were presented with the menu of seven banned words, an analyst told the paper. On the list: "diversity," "fetus," "transgender," "vulnerable," "entitlement," "science-based" and "evidence-based."


Lawl using linguistic determinism to push their anti-science ideology.
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Dec 16 2017 02:30pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 18 2015 12:26pm)
I'm seriously so sick of hearing about Trump already; he's a fringe candidate who stands no chance at getting the nomination. He's this year's Ron Paul (gets tons of attention on the internet but loses by a landslide).


LOL bet this guy feels like an idiot
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