What does this have to do with the meme? A religious organization isn't morality itself just like a law giver isnt a law and isn't immune to breaking its own morals. Hence why the author of the meme pointed out that the religious organization is immoral. Meaning its an organization that performs immoral acts.

Who decides what is moral or immoral? ‐- people do. You and I can decide

Not sure what you mean by "specific" definition I can give you the "exact" dictionary definition.

Immorality
noun
im·​mo·​ral·​i·​ty ˌi-(ˌ)mȯ-ˈra-lə-tē ˌi-mə-
Synonyms of immorality
1
: the quality or state of being immoral
especially : unchastity
2
: an immoral act or practice


Morality:
1 a
: a doctrine or system of moral conduct
… the basic law which an adequate morality ought to state.
—Marjorie Grene
b
moralities plural : particular moral principles or rules of conduct
… we were all brought up on one of these moralities …
—Psychiatry
2
: conformity to ideals of right human conduct
admitted the expediency of the law but questioned its morality
3
: moral conduct : virtue
… morality today involves a responsible relationship toward the laws of the natural world …
—P. B. Sears
4
a
: a moral discourse, statement, or lesson
ended his lecture with a trite morality
b
: a literary or other imaginative work teaching a moral lesson
"Aesop's Fables" is famous as a morality.

This post was edited by addone on Apr 1 2026 04:01pm

"Immorality is the state of being immoral" lol do you really believe that is an answer to the question? I'm not asking Webster's dictionary what immorality is, I'm asking you. Act like a man and tell me what you believe, stop asking google what it is that you should believe.

What is an immoral act?

If people(you and I) decide what an immoral act is, then it's only a matter of opinion and no opinion on this matter is more or less correct. If I decide that murdering you and your family because of the color of your skin is moral, I'm just as correct as you are when you claim that is in fact immoral. Is that what you're saying? If not, then you have to explain what morality is and how moral judgements could possibly be weighed against one another.

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Apr 1 2026 05:37pm

Immorality is simply a collection of ideas/concepts on what is considered wrong. In this case the author of the meme considers religious organization wrong. He doesnt specify exactly how they are immoral but I am sure he can provide his own examples if you asked.

I already gave you an example of what would be an immoral act, such as "the church trying to cover up crimes of pedophilia of priests touching choir boys or line their pockets through manipulation."
A person can say it is morally wrong to steal but be a thief themselves.

If the religious organisation breaks its own moral codes by their own definition they can be regarded as immoral. My own opinion on what is immoral becomes irrelevant.


Is this now a separate inquiry on my personal opinion on what I consider immoral? Because as far as the meme goes you have abandoned the main point and now pivoting to a different discussion altogether.

faith is just another word for trust. so? "trust is not fact" who du fug ever said trust is not fact??? or said it is fact?? antitheists are the absolutely greatest at gibberish.

been my experience antitheists always make bullchittery style arguments.
i think the real purpose since they dont have any legitimate arguments they switch to bullchittery arguments in attempt to confuse a person and attack a persons faith in that manner
after all who is the father of confusion?

No. It's about whether or not sin(immorality) exists.

Just tell me if you're too ashamed to answer my questions, stop trying to find ways to sneakily dodge them. Here it is again.

If people(you and I) decide what an immoral act is, then it's only a matter of opinion and no opinion on this matter is more or less correct. If I decide that murdering you and your family because of the color of your skin is moral, I'm just as correct as you are when you claim that is in fact immoral. Is that what you're saying? If not, then you have to explain what morality is and how moral judgements could possibly be weighed against one another.

Why don't you clarify what your main point/argument is because I think you misunderstood the meme and trying to fish out my personal opinions as a distraction.

Sure, unlike you I have no problem answering questions, although it is rude to repeatedly ignore my questions and then ask your own. Obviously my point is that sin(immorality) exists. Now answer my questions and through your answers we can figure out whether or not you agree despite the dumb memes.

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Apr 2 2026 12:40am

No sin only exists as a made up concept. Since gods don't exist or haven't been proven to exist then neither can sin. Immorality and sin have different definitions while having some overlap cannot be used interchangeably like you just did. I mentioned earlier that I would of used slightly different wording as the whole concept muddies the water.

Now answer me can religious organization be called immoral as a meme states?

This post was edited by addone on Apr 2 2026 01:32am

Late April fools

I guess you believe everything in the entire universe is fake.