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Oct 13 2023 04:13pm
Quote (Elyran @ Oct 13 2023 03:08pm)
I would but they'd behead me just for being Jewish.


So why did your forebears decide to settle themselves in a land that had hostile people living on it already? Kind of stupid, don't you think?
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Oct 13 2023 04:13pm
Quote (SBD @ Oct 13 2023 06:09pm)
Don't mean to quote Alfred here but some people genuinely just want to watch the world burn and just like our war on terror do you think the actual terrorists saw people as their people, not a chance. Do you think the people see Hamas as their leader, no, they just don't want to be shot for saying otherwise, which is the consequences for disobedience. Just like any African country, no one actually wants whatever dictator is oppressing the, they just don't want to be hacked to death and left in the ditch for being born in the wrong country.


I 100% agree and it's incredibly sad and always was sad for the palestinians for not having control or fair elections whatsoever.
In the meantime, Israel is getting rockets and suicide bombers and now much worst ie what happened last week. So what is to be done other than wiping out hamas once and for all?

Every war has civilian casualties and both Israel and Gaza will keep on gathering innocent deaths until freedom from terrorism. I wish nothing peace between both parties, as a Jew myself. In the long term, peace will happen, just like it happened with some other arab states recently.

Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 13 2023 06:13pm)
So why did your forebears decide to settle themselves in a land that had hostile people living on it already? Kind of stupid, don't you think?


Respectfully, shut the fuck up. I will not argue or debate anything with someone who has the IQ of a rock.

This post was edited by Elyran on Oct 13 2023 04:15pm
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Oct 13 2023 04:14pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 13 2023 03:11pm)
not what i meant, i keep saying that the muslim massacres against jews go back all the way to the 1920s

the religion of peace just cant help it ^_^

arent you tired of defending the scum of the earth? illegal immigrant criminals, scumbag politicians, ukranian nazis, muslim jihadists

no matter what the alleged victims are doing, derp will find a big fat BUT

again fenderp, even those that never experienced the alleged israeli "occupation" while living in the west are out in the streets shouting "death to israel"

this is where your argument fails, hatred against jews in general and israel is the standard among muslims everywhere in the world

you will dodge anyway, but please tell us how the terror is the result of israels actions and at the same time there are rallies around the world by people that are not affected

entire countries not affected by israels actions send money and weapons to kill jews

they share two things, islam and its antisemitism


Ok you saying Islam is inherently anti semitic proves how fucking stupid you are
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Oct 13 2023 04:15pm
Quote (Elyran @ Oct 13 2023 05:04pm)
Google "Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange" and see how many jailed and convicted terrorists Israel exchanged just for ONE soldier held hostage. I'll spare you the time - it's 1000 for 1.
Israel will do everything and anything for the security of their people, their homeland.

...and hamas KNOWS this yet still continue their tomfoolery. Why? Why expect a different outcome every time? Why attack in the first place when you KNOW things are going to get real ugly for themselves and for innocent palestinians?


I mean the reason is pretty obvious.

Hamas =/= Palestinians

They use Palestinian citizens as a tool to further their aggression on Israel, and Israel takes the bait by going full on genocide when it happens.
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Oct 13 2023 04:16pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 13 2023 03:11pm)
not what i meant, i keep saying that the muslim massacres against jews go back all the way to the 1920s


So Jews already knew that Muslims wanted them dead, but they still decided to settle themselves in that region. Very stupid, don't you think?

This post was edited by JessiWan on Oct 13 2023 04:19pm
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Oct 13 2023 04:17pm
Quote (Elyran @ Oct 13 2023 04:13pm)
I 100% agree and it's incredibly sad and always was sad for the palestinians for not having control or fair elections whatsoever.
In the meantime, Israel is getting rockets and suicide bombers along, and now much worst ie what happened last week. So what is to be done other than wiping out hamas once and for all?

Every war has civilian casualties and both Israel and Gaza will keep on gathering innocent deaths until freedom from terrorism. I wish nothing peace between both parties, as a Jew myself. In the long term, peace will happen, just like it happened with some other arab states recently.


I don't disagree. You can't do nothing but you can show humanity. That might mean aid packages for those trying to flee, that might mean larger time windows for those trying to flee. I'd hope that if Egypt isn't opening their gates they at minimum send mass aid to displaced people. Maybe it means restoration of power to hospitals, air dropped supplies to them.

I'm not saying action shouldn't be taken, reality is now it has to happen, but some humanity can be shown because as anyone with non tunnel vision will see, it's very likely the mass are just people born wrong place wrong time under a shitty dictatorship. They don't deserve death for it. Some will it's enviable, but maybe air stops thousands from starving or medicine stops thousands from dieing to infection or a bigger window allows hundreds of thousands to get to the next refuge.

Those people deserve no more death than people do of living in fear of Hamas. Actions should be taken for both things. Genuine actions. Not just dressing for the world stage.

This post was edited by SBD on Oct 13 2023 04:21pm
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Quote (Elyran @ Oct 13 2023 03:13pm)
Respectfully, shut the fuck up. I will not argue or debate anything with someone who has the IQ of a rock.


Sounds like you can't handle it when I point out that your ancestors made a stupid decision.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Oct 13 2023 04:18pm
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Oct 13 2023 04:18pm
Quote (AleKsRoBerto @ Oct 14 2023 12:14am)
Ok you saying Islam is inherently anti semitic proves how fucking stupid you are


its a fact and facts dont care about your feelings
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Oct 13 2023 04:20pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 13 2023 03:18pm)
its a fact and facts dont care about your feelings


Then how about you try and prove your fact?

Prove that Islam is inherently anti semitic.

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Oct 13 2023 04:20pm
Information seems to suggest that Israel has attacked/bombed people as they've been heading south. Palestinians feeling progressively that the warning to move south within 24 hours has been a trap.
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