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Dec 9 2017 09:01am
Quote (Skinned @ Dec 9 2017 08:48am)
Lol your credibility is garbage at this point. Repeal Obamacare build a wall stop immigrations all white identity stuff. He hasn't done anything for the economy and now he is shilling for the wealthy with tax cuts for them only.
Just no, you're full of shit. You're also basically Artic Shadow now so you are perfectly willing to spin the racist stuff into more benign stuff all while knowing what you are doing are not doing it from some misplaced sense of optimism like the rest of the Trump tards.
His campaign was all white identity politics. You guys are pretending that everyone didn't see it. Playing dumb is a GOP political tactic. Look at Benghazi. Playing dumb turned the death of Americans in service to the largest political fundraiser in American history.
Zero credibility. You know better shill.


Just look at the terrible kinds of identity politics ads Trump was putting out to smear Hillary Clinton during the election and rile people up over racial division:

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Dec 9 2017 09:07am
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Muslim ban, judge can't be fair because he's Mexican, law and order talking point, they're sending their rapists, etc etc. There's an endless list of quotes from Trump which appealed to the racist underbelly of the Republican party.

The important thing is that he advocates for policies which hurt minorities though. Less healthcare for poor people, tax reform favoring the wealthy, policies which perpetuate and increase mass incarceration.







Philadelphia is considering whether to ban barrier windows inside shops

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-small-business/wp/2017/12/04/philadelphia-is-considering-whether-to-ban-barrier-windows-inside-shops/?utm_term=.f9a25682fe11

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“It’s an indignity” to make purchases through such a window, said City Councilwoman Cindy Bass in this Philadelphia Inquirer article. Bass and others believe the windows represent race and class differences and a “symbol of distrust.”She, along with five co-sponsors, has proposed a bill requiring shopkeepers to remove their windows and if the bill receives a majority support in a scheduled committee meeting today it will head for a full vote on Dec. 14.



It doesn't get any more apparent than this.

/e Btw, she's a democrat...too. :/

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Dec 9 2017 09:09am
now now you have to pay attention to the philly politics surrounding that bulletproof glass ban to get a sense of what's actually going on.
It is about racism, its black politicians being racist against korean shopowners
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Dec 9 2017 09:10am
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 9 2017 10:01am)
Just look at the terrible kinds of identity politics ads Trump was putting out to smear Hillary Clinton during the election and rile people up over racial division:

https://i.imgur.com/s5jqOni.jpg


Democrats include black people. Shocking news. Most Democrats believe that black people and white people and people of various faiths can live together harmoniously.

The Republicans included neofascist, klansmen, Brietbart ideologues, and embraced other far right ideologies this time around. They didn't have to go that route. I mean you guys elected Bush last time and while incompetent in the office he at least he at least wanted what was best for Americans....Trump has very destructive and negative policies and its sad to see you guys reduced so much. You are all desperation when there used to be some aspiration. Now its 'circle the wagons, build a wall, redlining has failed us and other forms of apartheid are failing, we much protect white culture'.

So yes we have ads featuring people of diverse ethnicies, we just call them neighbors.

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now now you have to pay attention to the philly politics surrounding that bulletproof glass ban to get a sense of what's actually going on.
It is about racism, its black politicians being racist against korean shopowners



No, that's impossible. Black people can't be racist. Didn't you know that?
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Dec 9 2017 09:14am
Quote (Skinned @ 9 Dec 2017 11:10)
Democrats include black people. Shocking news. Most Democrats believe that black people and white people and people of various faiths can live together harmoniously.

The Republicans included neofascist, klansmen, Brietbart ideologues, and embraced other far right ideologies this time around. They didn't have to go that route. I mean you guys elected Bush last time and while incompetent in the office he at least he at least wanted what was best for Americans....Trump has very destructive and negative policies and its sad to see you guys reduced so much. You are all desperation when there used to be some aspiration. Now its 'circle the wagons, build a wall, redlining has failed us and other forms of apartheid are failing, we much protect white culture'.

So yes we have ads featuring people of diverse ethnicies, we just call them neighbors.


Quote (IceMage @ 9 Dec 2017 10:09)
No surprise. Trump is an incredibly divisive president who supports policies which hurt African-Americans.

like lowering the unemployment rate gap which has been unfavorable for so many years?



racial tension hustlers like you and skinned are pathetic, a testament to the past policies of the (D) party that you keep alive - like having a klan member who filibustered the civil rights act being their “conscience of the senate” who was the mentor of your preferred candidate :rofl:

its funny watching an old odious white privileged male like skinned lecture others on diversity and outreach to minorities when he voted for a panderer with some hot sauce and a “black superpredator” crime bill in her purse

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Democrats include black people. Shocking news. Most Democrats believe that black people and white people and people of various faiths can live together harmoniously.

The Republicans included neofascist, klansmen, Brietbart ideologues, and embraced other far right ideologies this time around. They didn't have to go that route. I mean you guys elected Bush last time and while incompetent in the office he at least he at least wanted what was best for Americans....Trump has very destructive and negative policies and its sad to see you guys reduced so much. You are all desperation when there used to be some aspiration. Now its 'circle the wagons, build a wall, reslining has failed us and other forms of apartheid are failing, we much protect white culture'.

So yes we have ads featuring people of diverse ethnicies, we just call them neighbors.


Hillary devoted over 70% of her campaign ads to calling Trump a racist, sexist, islamophobe, pussygrabber, etc etc down the line, while the other 30% were ads that virtue signaled around minorities and pushed white guilt messaging.
She showed herself in a hijab, vastly disproportionately pushed imagery of mexicans and blacks and muslims, invoked black lives matter and social justice at the forefront.

I don't know how you're fooling yourself, but we were both alive for her campaign, that was all she did. What actual policies did she campaign on? The only one I can even name offhand is her nonsense about paying for worker retraining after they lose their jobs to outsourcing under her, which went over about as well with middle america as offering a girl cab fare home after you rape her. I can quote you the statistics or evidence and pile it up and front of you, and you're free to deny it, but no reasonable person could have witnessed that campaign and thought that Hillary's messaging was anything other than "Trump is a bad guy because {various identity politics}". Her #1 campaign 'issue' was the access hollywood tape.

Trump meanwhile spent about 80% of his campaign talking about the issues, the economy, infrastructure, taxes, immigration, healthcare, etc- and the other 20% pandering and transparently fanning the flames of white identity politics. That he was cynically doing it has never been in doubt, I've decried it plenty, but what you're mistaking is the vastly disproportionate degrees in the messaging because you've been indoctrinated into a culture of hysteria by that very same identity politics narrative that Hillary was peddling.



Their ad buys reflected their messaging. Trump's message was mostly one of policy, Hillary's message was mostly one of attacking Trump based on identity politics.
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Dec 9 2017 10:58am
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Hillary devoted over 70% of her campaign ads to calling Trump a racist, sexist, islamophobe, pussygrabber, etc etc down the line, while the other 30% were ads that virtue signaled around minorities and pushed white guilt messaging.
She showed herself in a hijab, vastly disproportionately pushed imagery of mexicans and blacks and muslims, invoked black lives matter and social justice at the forefront.

I don't know how you're fooling yourself, but we were both alive for her campaign, that was all she did. What actual policies did she campaign on? The only one I can even name offhand is her nonsense about paying for worker retraining after they lose their jobs to outsourcing under her, which went over about as well with middle america as offering a girl cab fare home after you rape her. I can quote you the statistics or evidence and pile it up and front of you, and you're free to deny it, but no reasonable person could have witnessed that campaign and thought that Hillary's messaging was anything other than "Trump is a bad guy because {various identity politics}". Her #1 campaign 'issue' was the access hollywood tape.

Trump meanwhile spent about 80% of his campaign talking about the issues, the economy, infrastructure, taxes, immigration, healthcare, etc- and the other 20% pandering and transparently fanning the flames of white identity politics. That he was cynically doing it has never been in doubt, I've decried it plenty, but what you're mistaking is the vastly disproportionate degrees in the messaging because you've been indoctrinated into a culture of hysteria by that very same identity politics narrative that Hillary was peddling.

https://i.imgur.com/NCjCuBM.jpg

Their ad buys reflected their messaging. Trump's message was mostly one of policy, Hillary's message was mostly one of attacking Trump based on identity politics.


I don't see why plastering the Hollywood access tape everywhere should be a bad thing. It's not fucking 'identity politics', it's exposing Trump as a sexual predator. Yet people still voted for him over Hillary because they'd rather have a rapist in the White House than a brown guy living next door. Pretty pathetic state of affairs.

Chart is misleading though when all your 'policies' are about identity politics. Build a wall, deport illegals, Muslim ban and so on... Kill terrorist's families! I mean fucking hell dude.
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Dec 9 2017 11:22am
Quote (Scaly @ 9 Dec 2017 17:58)
I don't see why plastering the Hollywood access tape everywhere should be a bad thing. It's not fucking 'identity politics', it's exposing Trump as a sexual predator. Yet people still voted for him over Hillary because they'd rather have a rapist in the White House than a brown guy living next door. Pretty pathetic state of affairs.

Chart is misleading though when all your 'policies' are about identity politics. Build a wall, deport illegals, Muslim ban and so on... Kill terrorist's families! I mean fucking hell dude.


exactly: they still voted for trump, despite all the clinton attacks on him as a person. trying to make this election a referendum on donald trump's personality was one of the biggest, if not the single most severe mistake of the clinton campaign. she didnt give swing voters any reason to vote for her except for "the other guy is even worse than me".

trump talking about stuff like the downsides of rampant free trade and immigration resonated with voters. clinton talking about trump didnt.
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Dec 9 2017 11:23am
Quote (Scaly @ Dec 9 2017 10:58am)
I don't see why plastering the Hollywood access tape everywhere should be a bad thing. It's not fucking 'identity politics', it's exposing Trump as a sexual predator. Yet people still voted for him over Hillary because they'd rather have a rapist in the White House than a brown guy living next door. Pretty pathetic state of affairs.

Chart is misleading though when all your 'policies' are about identity politics. Build a wall, deport illegals, Muslim ban and so on... Kill terrorist's families! I mean fucking hell dude.


Not to mention that the vast majority of Trump's "free press" that he exploited was done by making outrageous identity politics comments to keep himself in the media.
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