this is completely false ! there was worldwide consensus on the two state solution and it was unilaterally agreed upon but the USA rejected it, not HAMAS. you might want to read up on the history of the area




this I dont really have an answer for. the EU should have made other accommodations instead of displacing Palestinians to accommodate Jews, they honestly deserved their own nation state somewhere in Europe after what happened in WW2.
many, many of Palestinians living today are ancestors of Jews. thats one fact that makes this whole situation even more depressing....its cousins fighting cousins

"i never excused anything" - but - "everyone is a die hard hamas supporter"

is like saying

"i never excused anything" - but - "every baby and civilian that was murdered by hamas terrorists was a die hard likud supporter, in favour of the brutal oppression of millions of people. clearly, not living in areas that were forcefully taken from palestinians and not legitimising an apartheid regime was no option for them."


again, you are ACTUALLY doing the thing you falsely accuse the other side of. oh, and stop pretending this conflict started six days ago. that's so ridiculously dishonest...

This post was edited by fender on Oct 13 2023 03:55pm

Whatever you are smoking, i want some. The Israeli government has been against a real two state solution. They would not compensate Palestinians whose families were exiled, they would expect that the Palestinians would demilitarize, and the Palestinians would be dependent on Israeli infrastructure. With all that and if you still believe Israel was “always for a two state solution,” you should probs just stop talking about this.

Yitzhak herzog wanted to go to Argentina cuz he saw all this shit coming decades ago!

This post was edited by AleKsRoBerto on Oct 13 2023 03:56pm

That's not how terror works obviously just like when isralies stripped and slaughtered women and kids in villages, terrorism knows no bounds but as you know it's not a reflection of all its people and there's solutions that can still cause less pain for those who are just civilians.

Google "Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange" and see how many jailed and convicted terrorists Israel exchanged just for ONE soldier held hostage. I'll spare you the time - it's 1000 for 1.
Israel will do everything and anything for the security of their people, their homeland.

...and hamas KNOWS this yet still continue their tomfoolery. Why? Why expect a different outcome every time? Why attack in the first place when you KNOW things are going to get real ugly for themselves and for innocent palestinians?

If this is a serious question, then you should be asking Hamas themselves, not some dude on the internet.

I would but they'd behead me just for being Jewish.

Don't mean to quote Alfred here but some people genuinely just want to watch the world burn and just like our war on terror do you think the actual terrorists saw people as their people, not a chance. Do you think the people see Hamas as their leader, no, they just don't want to be shot for saying otherwise, which is the consequences for disobedience. Just like any African country, no one actually wants whatever dictator is oppressing the, they just don't want to be hacked to death and left in the ditch for being born in the wrong country.

not what i meant, i keep saying that the muslim massacres against jews go back all the way to the 1920s

the religion of peace just cant help it

arent you tired of defending the scum of the earth? illegal immigrant criminals, scumbag politicians, ukranian nazis, muslim jihadists

no matter what the alleged victims are doing, derp will find a big fat BUT

again fenderp, even those that never experienced the alleged israeli "occupation" while living in the west are out in the streets shouting "death to israel"

this is where your argument fails, hatred against jews in general and israel is the standard among muslims everywhere in the world

you will dodge anyway, but please tell us how the terror is the result of israels actions and at the same time there are rallies around the world by people that are not affected

entire countries not affected by israels actions send money and weapons to kill jews

they share two things, islam and its antisemitism