yeah that was pathetic lol

speaking of which

Til Chealsea Manning also identifies as a black man

Not a pivot. You claimed Hillary places blame on everyone but herself, I countered that she actually does accept blame in multiple interviews(and in her book), you then proceed to move the goalposts to "she doesn't blame herself often enough".

It's important to expose the double standards Trump cultists like yourself have. If the ability of a leader to accept blame and be honest about their mistakes is important to you for Hillary, why is it not important to you with Trump?

because thats the bar that hillary set for herself! she is the one who spent all the campaign emphasizing how morally superior her behavior and her attitudes are and how much higher her integrity is compared to trump.

and no, giving a list of 270 outside reasons why she lost, followed by "oh, yeah, its also my own fault... somehow... a little bit... but but comey! ... and russia!!" is not what I would consider "honestly blaming herself".

It is.

the election was super close. the tipping point state was won by a margin of only 0.7%. it was a long and dirty campaign that ended in a very tight election. therefore, we can name about 20 different things that exerted enough influence on the voters to swing the election. comey probably was among those things. russia maybe, maybe not.

anyway, it is not justified to say that those two aspects are THE reason that hillary lost even though one could just as well blame any of the other 18 points.

in the end, hillary outspent trump by over two to one, she had an overwhelming and unprecedented majority of the current washington establishment, of the media, of the intellectual elites, of the entertainment business and of the celebrities on her side. she had a huge advantage in terms of political experience. she is a professional politician who had been thinking about and preparing for running for president for at least 20 years.

... and in the end, despite all those advantages, she somehow managed to lose to donald fucking trump and his twitter account because this orange goon who was born and raised with a golden spoon, and his staff composed mostly of family members and alt-right nutjobs, somehow had a better grasp on the state of mind of the common people than her, the professional politician with years of preparation and all the support in the world.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 22 2017 06:04pm

“Its a little bit my fault but its like 99% everyone elses” is not accepting blame. She blamed Barnie and Donna Brazile who facilitated the throwing and surrender of the damn (D) primary LOL.

double standards, hahahhahah, coming from the “its no ones business but ours, and it was only sex but not really sexual relations, and it depends what is really means” crowd is laughable.

keep spamming cult cult cult, you self-described snarky lefty liberal. no wonder hillary and her most ardent supporters are simply insufferable and unlikable. no matter how much you spam that and try to insult the President and his supporters, the fact remains is you spent over two years now defending someone who took a big fat L against him despite a stacked deck in her!-> favor


yep, but the lefty hillary supporters like icemage and saucyman36727261717 will just insult the common people saying they dont know whats best and the state needs to handle these ‘matters’

This post was edited by excellence on Nov 22 2017 06:10pm

hillary lost, because trump had a far superior election campaign and concentrated his events on swing states, while hillary was all over the place

thats probably the only smart thing he and his staff managed so far



sounds like socialism and as we all know it works so well

This post was edited by ampoo on Nov 22 2017 06:12pm

thats actually not true. hillary focused on the presumptive battleground states just as much as trump. its just that he picked the right one while she didnt. early on in the race, it was already abundantly clear that she would defeat trump by huge margins in almost every big urban area, and that he would wipe her out in rural regions. it was a huge mistake by her campaign to spend so much effort in places like ohio even though it absolutely had to be expected that she could only beat trump there if the whole election was a landslide anyway. he also defeated her in places that were campaigned heavily by both sides, like florida and pennsylvania. and she and her campaign didnt realize that states like wisconsin, minnesota or michigan were in actual danger.