Quote (fender @ 18 Feb 2017 14:13)
oh i see, you assume the "problem" is them trying to get to europe, not what drives them here in the first place. oh right, it's only "welfare" and "women" (wtf?! has a black man stolen your gf?) - ofc, when africa sends their guys they are just lazy mooches and rapists, and SOME of them might be good... owait, you didn't even give them that, even trump does more nuance than you, let that sink in for a moment...
and while it's funny to see you squirm like this in the english speaking subforums, there is really no need for it - so please do yourself a favour and stop being such a two-faced crybaby about being called a racist. in the german sub, amongst your fellow brown shirts you're almost proud of it, so why don't you just own up to it like a man? i mean it's not illegal or anything - and your posts are here for everyone to see.
you know what the interesting part is? as so often, we actually agree on many of the issues. for example, i fully agree with you that we should put more effort into conveying the message that this is NOT the proper way to get into europe. however, i think the main focus should be to disincentivise it altogether (help them improve the situation in their home countries, make it harder to gain welfare access for ppl who REALLY just come here NOT to work and actively improve their lives, but live off the work of others).
i also agree that whoever is violent against border protection agents has to be punished and sent back. i do, however, not think that shooting human beings (not "scum" or whatever term you use to dehumanise them) for trying to get over a fence / wall is the right thing to do, we've been there before in history and it wasn't a great time.
all that being said though, a major difference between us is that i do NOT have the urge to call just ALL of them "scum" or "savages" or "well built illiterates" (my personal favourite since it reveals so much about your own insecurities) or "monkeys", whenever i see a video with africans trying to get into europe... funny how that works, right? despite our similar views. i wonder why that is... but hey, just keep pretending those are just "reasonable" characterisations and it has nothing to do with you being a bigot or anything...
i didnt say that, reading helps
what i am saying is that we encourage them that they can get whatever they want by force + get away with it and gave an example
that can manifest in many other ways, all of them not desirable
i strongly believe in ones own responsibility for their lives and that pretty much every state reflects the people that live in it, unfortunately that does not leave much room for me to believe that there is any kind of industrious majority in africa
completely unable to build any kind of society that is above prehistoric level and actually create things on their own.....why? the times where most of our forefathers could neither write nor read are not too far away and somehow they were doing better
the west has dumped hundreds of billions on that continent already and it didnt work
perhaps less involvement would be worth a try, african problems have to be solved by africans
i dont mind providing some billion condoms (if they would use them) and perhaps telling them that something like 7 children on average, when you already have nothing, is not really helping
that much we can certainly do
"wellt built illeterates" does not reveal anything about me, this is a direct referance to our dear media talking about those poor haggard refugees
they look pretty fucking energetic and far from ill-nourished
by the way i am not saying that all of africa are scum (complete bs), what i am saying though is, that every single person participating in violent border assaults in a piece of filth
i dont give the slightest fuck about how desperate they might be
meanwhile the german forum, that you dont even know, no idea what is serious and what is not and take everything literally that you randomly find there....is a pretty weak argument (the regular users know what deliberate exaggerations and polemic are, and what is not)
i mean, you had that flame war with morons possessing dozends of accounts there that are ignored by 90% without having a clue (just for info)
ON topic
deranged comedian thinks he is winning an argument and gets applause from a leftist crowd
trump is literally hitler
This post was edited by ampoo on Feb 18 2017 02:09pm