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Oct 13 2023 03:37pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 13 2023 11:31pm)
stop excusing the slaughtering of children, no matter their religion, ethnicity, skin colour, or nationality. it's literally that simple, yet you can't do it...


never excused anything of the sort

the facts are that one side started this conflict and now they will have to deal with consequences

there are no clean wars and there is no possible response without collateral damage

that being said, there are two solutions

rise up against hamas digging up water pipes to build rockets or maybe.....just maybe dont kill jews

clearly number one is not an option, when even that kind of humanitarian crisis is not enough

almost everyone being a die hard hamas supporter is the only logical explanation
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Oct 13 2023 03:38pm
Quote (Elyran @ Oct 13 2023 02:35pm)

They invested it all for one purpose : destroying the Jews and the state of Israel. There is no negotiation in that. So what do the Jews do? Abandon the powerhouse they built on their historic homeland?


why do you think Palestinians became radicalized? what do you think the origin of HAMAS is ? maybe its a symptom of Palestinians being humiliated, beaten, oppressed and forced out of their own land by the Isaeli's since the 40's. just a thought
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Oct 13 2023 03:38pm
Quote (Elyran @ Oct 13 2023 03:35pm)
"Israelis have done that in the past to innocent people"
Why is it that hamas never ever invested the hundreds of millions of $ they receive every year on their infrastructure? On their people? Why do they store rockets in hospitals, schools, mosques?
Better yet, why does hamas shoot rockets from schools, hospitals, civilian homes, mosques?

They invested it all for one purpose : destroying the Jews and the state of Israel. There is no negotiation in that. So what do the Jews do? Abandon the powerhouse they built on their historic homeland? Are they not allowed to defend themself?


No one is calling for that. You're trying to make up some wet dream scenario where you think people here are requesting such. Every single person here has condemned Hamas.

I mean, if you go through the 1900s though certainly the West invested vastly more into the success of Israel and displacing Palestinians, and then Israelites made sure of it and did some pretty sickening things themselves which I assume anyone would also condemn but again the West has a vested interest in the success of Israel.

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Oct 13 2023 03:39pm
Quote (Elyran @ Oct 13 2023 02:35pm)
"Israelis have done that in the past to innocent people"
Why is it that hamas never ever invested the hundreds of millions of $ they receive every year on their infrastructure? On their people? Why do they store rockets in hospitals, schools, mosques?
Better yet, why does hamas shoot rockets from schools, hospitals, civilian homes, mosques?

They invested it all for one purpose : destroying the Jews and the state of Israel. There is no negotiation in that. So what do the Jews do? Abandon the powerhouse they built on their historic homeland?


When one is a communist and anti-semite who is so deeply invested in their deranged ideology that they believe Israel = bad and Palestine = good, these facts are much more convenient to just ignore.

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 13 2023 03:39pm
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Oct 13 2023 03:42pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 13 2023 05:38pm)
why do you think Palestinians became radicalized? what do you think the origin of HAMAS is ? maybe its a symptom of Palestinians being humiliated, beaten, oppressed and forced out of their own land by the Isaeli's since the 40's. just a thought


Not all Palestinians are radicalized, and Israel was always for a 2 state solution.
But Palestinians (hamas) always rejected it every single time, with the goal of cleansing the entire land of Jews. There is no negotiating. So where do the Jews go if not stay in their historic homeland?

Why are Arab countries suddenly signing peace deals with Israel (abraham accords)?
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Oct 13 2023 03:43pm
Quote (Elyran @ Oct 13 2023 03:42pm)
Not all Palestinians are radicalized, and Israel was always for a 2 state solution.
But Palestinians (hamas) always rejected it every single time, with the goal of cleansing the entire land of Jews. There is no negotiating. So where do the Jews go if not stay in their historic homeland?

Why are Arab countries suddenly signing peace deals with Israel (abraham accords)?


Great, we agree so you can understand why not everyone agrees with flattening an area when the act of a terrorist organization does not represent the majority of actual everyday people.
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Oct 13 2023 03:47pm
Quote (SBD @ Oct 13 2023 03:43pm)
Great, we agree so you can understand why not everyone agrees with flattening an area when the act of a terrorist organization does not represent the majority of actual everyday people.


What’s the ratio in Gaza to pro Hamas to innocent civilians?
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Oct 13 2023 03:47pm
Quote (SBD @ Oct 13 2023 05:43pm)
Great, we agree so you can understand why not everyone agrees with flattening an area when the act of a terrorist organization does not represent the majority of actual everyday people.


Well it'd be fucking great if hamas men'd up and fought their own fight without needing to hide behind civilians -- they must have felt they stood a chance to win if they did what they did last week?
Why not fight army to army?

Israel's policy is to airstrike the exact location where rockets are fired from and where rockets are stored or manufactured
...and they all happen to be in schools, mosques, hospitals, innocent palestinian entities who are AGAINST hamas. So why make your people go through this?
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Oct 13 2023 03:47pm
Quote (Elyran @ Oct 13 2023 02:35pm)
They invested it all for one purpose : destroying the Jews and the state of Israel. There is no negotiation in that. So what do the Jews do? Abandon the powerhouse they built on their historic homeland? Are they not allowed to defend themself?


Jews settled themselves in a land that already had people living on it, and now they wonder why there is a conflict.

Jews are idiots.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Oct 13 2023 03:51pm
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Oct 13 2023 03:49pm
Quote (Elyran @ Oct 13 2023 02:42pm)
Not all Palestinians are radicalized, and Israel was always for a 2 state solution.
But Palestinians (hamas) always rejected it every single time, with the goal of cleansing the entire land of Jews. There is no negotiating. So where do the Jews go if not stay in their historic homeland?


You talk as if the fact Jews have nowhere to go is now Palestinians' problem. That they are now under an obligation to share the land with Jews.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Oct 13 2023 03:57pm
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