Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 13 Oct 2023 22:08)

i dont care about your strawman shit and i never said everyone is a legitimate target

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 13 Oct 2023 22:08)

however in the harsh reality israel cant possibly be expected to buy the human shield tactics from hamas

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 13 Oct 2023 22:08)

literal decades of terror against jews and multiple wars against them

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 13 Oct 2023 22:08)

maybe just stop attacking them, if you dont want a residential building with a rocket launcher on it blown up

are some of the bombings pure retaliation with no military value? sure, maybe just dont massacre jews then

Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ 14 Oct 2023 04:30)

On 9/11 over 5,000 men, woman, and children died on our soil.

We then went and killed over a million people across 7 countries for the actions of a few terrorist.

200x by the way for those who don't want to do the math.

Would not surprise me if Israel indiscriminately bombed and killed 100k people by the time it's all said and done.

Do you guys remember this?


“We have heard that half a million [Iraqi] children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima,” asked Stahl, “And, you know, is the price worth it?” “I think that is a very hard choice,” Albright answered, “but the price, we think, the price is worth it.”Mar 25, 2022

Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 13 2023 03:30pm)

On 9/11 over 5,000 men, woman, and children died on our soil.

We then went and killed over a million people across 7 countries for the actions of a few terrorist.

200x by the way for those who don't want to do the math.

Would not surprise me if Israel indiscriminately bombed and killed 100k people by the time it's all said and done.

Do you guys remember this?


“We have heard that half a million [Iraqi] children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima,” asked Stahl, “And, you know, is the price worth it?” “I think that is a very hard choice,” Albright answered, “but the price, we think, the price is worth it.”Mar 25, 2022

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 13 2023 03:28pm)

this seems illogical to me.

gazans believe, rightfully so, that absolute death and destruction is headed for Gaza city. israel, who's bringing the death, says "leave or you'll prob die by our hand, we're moving in, here's a map of where not to be".

and "they likely wont have food and water there" is equally unsafe?

nowhere in all of gaza now is "safe", but no where is as "unsafe" as gaza city now. the stated plan is to level the entire city and destroy the tunnels underneath. the city itself is basically Pompeii right now.

Quote (fender @ Oct 13 2023 02:45pm)

you literally said "there is no distinction. gaza is hamas." - if that isn't legitimising israel's cruel and disproportionate retaliation, its terror against millions, literally starving, bombing, and exhausting them to death, then i don't know what is.



they could - if they wanted to distinguish themselves from terrorists, but clearly they have a different approach and don't mind murdering thousands of palestinian children.



literal decades of illegal and brutal occupation, establishing an apartheid state, depriving millions of basic needs and freedom



that's as cruel and cynical of a take as saying "if you don't want innocent babies beheaded, maybe stop oppressing millions of people". you are basically saying exactly the things that you falsely attribute to people who actually DENOUNCED those atrocities, and did NOT justify them by israel's policies that lead to this point. you are the one downplaying the slaughter of children and innocent people. do you genuinely not realise that, do you genuinely think muslim lives just aren't worth as much? because looking at your posts, i don't think there is a way to come to a different conclusion...

Quote (SBD @ Oct 13 2023 04:53pm)

I don't understand it either. If we applied the logic of people here who consider everyone to just be Hamas supporters or are just necessary collateral, you could look back at many events where Israelis committed horrible, vile acts, stripping women and children and slaughtering them in villages and by the same logic we should be calling to glass Israel.

I don't understand why there's such a difficulty for people to understand you can denounce Hamas and recognize gaza and the majority of its people are not Hamas.

The same people expect people to understand that Israels past horrendous acts are not a reflection of all of Israel but can't extend that same rational to someone else.

Quote (fender @ Oct 13 2023 10:45pm)

you literally said "there is no distinction. gaza is hamas." - if that isn't legitimising israel's cruel and disproportionate retaliation, its terror against millions, literally starving, bombing, and exhausting them to death, then i don't know what is.



they could - if they wanted to distinguish themselves from terrorists, but clearly they don't mind murdering tens of thousands of palestinian children and innocents...



literal decades of illegal and brutal occupation, establishing an apartheid state, depriving millions of basic needs and freedom



that's as cruel and cynical of a take as saying "if you don't want innocent babies beheaded, maybe stop oppressing millions of people". you are basically saying exactly the things that you falsely attribute to people who actually DENOUNCED those atrocities, and did NOT justify them by israel's policies that lead to this point. you are the one trying to justify the indiscriminate slaughter of children and innocent people. do you genuinely not realise that, do you genuinely think muslim lives just aren't worth as much? because looking at your posts, i don't think there is a way to come to a different conclusion...

Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 13 2023 04:11pm)

So israel told all the people in gaza to get on buses and leave gaza.

Now Israel is bombing the buses with all the civilians on it.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 13 Oct 2023 22:53)

People get trampled going into a walmart on Black Friday dude.

They are crossing a river valley with only rickedy suspension bridges, with no food or water, where its mostly children, in 24 hours.

Even if Israel gave them a month this would be a mass casualty event. 24 hours is a literal death sentence. They would be LUCKY if half of them got out and the other half just died in the process.