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Oct 25 2017 08:27am
Quote (IceMage @ 25 Oct 2017 14:58)
It really is strange how quickly Europeans give up their rights after something bad happens.


you mean like the PATRIOT act? owait...
meanwhile in reality:

https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index
http://patrickrhamey.com/saturday-research/2017/8/15/2017-state-of-world-liberty-index

also noteworthy that "economic freedom" is the aspect that keeps the US at least somewhat competitive, when it comes to social freedom they rank SIGNIFICANTLY worse...
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Oct 25 2017 08:28am
Quote (IceMage @ 25 Oct 2017 09:58)
It really is strange how quickly Europeans give up their rights after something bad happens.

its funny how that stupid meme harkens back to the days of world wars
who started the world wars?
who finished them?

exactly
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Oct 25 2017 08:51am
Quote (fender @ Oct 25 2017 09:27am)
you mean like the PATRIOT act? owait...
meanwhile in reality:

https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index
http://patrickrhamey.com/saturday-research/2017/8/15/2017-state-of-world-liberty-index

also noteworthy that "economic freedom" is the aspect that keeps the US at least somewhat competitive, when it comes to social freedom they rank SIGNIFICANTLY worse...


Freedom so scary.
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Oct 25 2017 09:07am
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Freedom so scary.


just remember that next time you feel inclined to talk shit about a region that has significantly more individual rights and freedoms than the self-proclaimed "land of the free"...
but hey, when your oppressive government takes your freedoms away you still have your guns to prevent that, right? owait, never happened, never will...
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Oct 25 2017 09:13am
Quote (fender @ Oct 25 2017 10:07am)
just remember that next time you feel inclined to talk shit about a region that has significantly more individual rights and freedoms than the self-proclaimed "land of the free"...
but hey, when your oppressive government takes your freedoms away you still have your guns to prevent that, right? owait, never happened, never will...


Heinrich, you live in a land that prosecutes people for denying a historical event. You have no credibility to talk about freedom.
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Oct 25 2017 09:16am
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 25 2017 08:13am)
Heinrich, you live in a land that prosecutes people for denying a historical event. You have no credibility to talk about freedom.


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Oct 25 2017 09:17am
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 25 2017 09:13am)
Heinrich, you live in a land that prosecutes people for denying a historical event. You have no credibility to talk about freedom.


this, you don't have the most basic freedom, to speak your mind and express yourself. fender has defended the concept of hate speech and criminalizing words here too

fender LITERALLY cannot go outside and throw up the roman salute, it doesn't matter if he doesn't want to, or has no reason to, he isn't afforded the right to raise his arm up and forward.
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Oct 25 2017 09:21am
Quote (IceMage @ 25 Oct 2017 16:13)
Heinrich, you live in a land that prosecutes people for denying a historical event. You have no credibility to talk about freedom.


are you really so triggered that you resort to the lazy nazi innuendos of people whose contributions to this forum could easily be replaced by linking an "edgy" white trash teenager's facebook feed?

seriously, when your best argument is to say that you can't be free in a country where it's illegal to systematically, repeatedly, and publicly deny the holocaust, you clearly got your personal priorities messed up and know that your cherry-picking has reached moronic levels.

again, feel free to compare ACTUAL individual and social freedoms and you will quickly see WHO has more:

https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index
http://patrickrhamey.com/saturday-research/2017/8/15/2017-state-of-world-liberty-index
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Oct 25 2017 09:28am
Quote (fender @ Oct 25 2017 08:21am)
are you really so triggered that you resort to the lazy nazi innuendos of people whose contributions to this forum could easily be replaced by linking an "edgy" white trash teenager's facebook feed?



that subtle racism.. i like it, keep it up!

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Oct 25 2017 09:28am
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Oct 25 2017 09:29am
Quote (fender @ Oct 25 2017 10:21am)
are you really so triggered that you resort to the lazy nazi innuendos of people whose contributions to this forum could easily be replaced by linking an "edgy" white trash teenager's facebook feed?

seriously, when your best argument is to say that you can't be free in a country where it's illegal to systematically, repeatedly, and publicly deny the holocaust, you clearly got your personal priorities messed up and know that your cherry-picking has reached moronic levels.

again, feel free to compare ACTUAL individual and social freedoms and you will quickly see WHO has more:

https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index
http://patrickrhamey.com/saturday-research/2017/8/15/2017-state-of-world-liberty-index


The right of people to express their inaccurate, perhaps even crazy viewpoints seems like a basic standard of freedom that your country doesn't meet. Also not sure why you keep spamming a libertarian propaganda outlet.
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