So you've made a lot of claims and with a few simple questions and statement of fact, I've basically annihilated your position.

Got anything else?

Maybe reflect on your wider worldview if it's this easy to destroy the central tenants

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 21 2021 08:00pm

No.

You've lost track of what my position was and successfully got me to humor some of your red herrings which scored you some marginal breathing room in the form of me not having the exact information on those issues.


Those are two very different things, my friend.

You said the successes stopped in the 60's.

I asked you to support that

You cited Detroit and Chicago

I pointed out that Detroit and Chicago had nothing to do with white social justice, and did not correlate with "that demographic moving in".

and you acknowledged it.



So you tried to support your argument, and I destroyed it with like two sentences. Got any better support? Because it looks like you just got rekt.

Yes. You are somewhat correct to blame Detroit and Chicago's failings on their respective economies - but that doesn't mean you automatically get a super mario star to clean out every other point I demolished you on lol. Lets review:


You couldn't explain how blacks were so successful in the most racist period in US history - yet seem to absolutely suck as a cohesive group today.

You never really did explain how the Japanese excelled to the top of American society, in spite of suffering the very same racism and being put in concentration camps during WW2.

And you were even wrong to point out that white on white crime is the same as black on black crime - when they are categorically disproportionate.



These are 3 major hurdles that form the core of my argument here. My inability to directly prove my theory that social justice enabling caused this is not a free pass to just handwave the above 3 - it just means that I haven't bothered to put together a paper on this yet lol.

You just made a bunch of claims. Now support them with evidence.

You explicitly did not support the claim that "blacks were more successful during the most racist period in US history".

The Japanese people were not "treated worse than blacks", in fact Japanese people were treated better than blacks before WW2, and after WW2.

White on white and black on black crime is not significantly different as a proportion of total crime committed against those groups. (from 1998 - 2008 it was 84% for WoW and 91% for BoB)



It's not that you have "an inability to prove", it's that you haven't even supported these claims on even the most basic level. And additionally, these are all easily debunked because they aren't your theories, they're copy and pasted from the most easily debunked and racist corners of the internet.

You disproved your own argument about blacks being rich in the past when you tried to bring up the Tulsa massacre!

Whites had so much dominance in the 1920's that they could literally go into black neighborhoods and shit all over them without consequences - that is a far cry from the laws and social dynamic we have today. So how is it that blacks even managed to become wealthy in the 1920's, but not the 2020's?

And you're just wrong about the Japanese, as well. The Japanese were tortured, raped, put in concentration camped and executed as potential spies - and what's worse, their women were even made to be 'comfort women' for returning G.I's who'd just got done nuking their people. Their assets were never returned and they had to start from zero again.

I also already disproved the same argument you just brought up about percentages again - I literally explicitly did the math for you on that like 12 posts ago. LOL

*Some* black people were able to become well-off in the 1920's. Their neighborhood was also burned to the ground. So that doesn't really matter now does it?

Please source your claim that Japanese were treated worse during WW2 "than blacks have ever been in their history". Again, you haven't give any sources.

You were comparing number murdered to total population. What conclusion would you like to draw from this statistic exactly?

Its 9 o clock and I need to fuck my wife.

Lets pick this up when I have more time to properly source those points for you, alright? I'm willing to gather them from where I've spotted them and put them into a package for you, as long as you're not arguing on bad faith.

You guys fuck late. We usually go at it as soon as we get home from work.