Quote (LoverManGenius @ Jul 21 2021 08:05pm)

Funny how you can find the needle in a hay stack when it comes to outlier anecdotes, but you willfully ignore other blatantly problematic stats - like rampant black on black crime.

But don't take it from a "white supremacist" like me - I'm just gonna sit back, relax - all smug and let this table do the talking for me:

https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/race-and-ethnicity-violent-crime-offenders-and-arrestees-2018

Quote (said_aouita @ Jul 21 2021 07:41pm)

black on black crime and blacks being mistreated by white police officers are two entirely different subjects. Obviously you are unable to see this fact.

Quote (LoverManGenius @ Jul 21 2021 08:40pm)

Lets point to what we already know:

Blacks had enough success during the most racist period of American history, that they were at least able to thrive on their own - so much so, that this enraged the KKK and their affiliates enough that they thought they needed to do something about it... So the Tulsa massacre ensues.

What's interesting to me is that Black people have already proven resilient and resourceful enough to thrive - even in spite of living in a 95% white country that hates them - and those whites having the social acceptance to be literal Nazis at that time. Yet in modern times, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Social justice is immensely popular and mainstream, so much so that you can be cancelled for the simple crime of disagreeing with it too 'aggressively.' The KKK is harder to find than big foot, barely - if ever making any meaningful appearance in public, much less marching into black neighborhoods and attacking them - yet we see blacks failing pretty much ubiquitously, so what gives?

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 21 2021 07:44pm)

You didn't answer the question at all.

Please answer the question or we can't proceed.

What do you have to support that the "pattern of successes seems to stop around the 60's"

Because if you can't source it, and can't make a comparison to the times you are referencing, then your claims are just made up.

Quote (LoverManGenius @ Jul 21 2021 08:45pm)

Because we can measure the recession of blacks from rich neighborhoods into poor ones - without violent intervention from whites. Its pretty clear when we follow the data stemming from the 60's that blacks start to massively fail after this point.

And I'm sure you will point to redlining, but did redlining not exist back in the 1920's? When blacks were rich as fuck and doing well? lol

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 21 2021 07:48pm)

Show the data

Quote (LoverManGenius @ Jul 21 2021 08:51pm)

I mean.. I don't have the real estate data for the last 6 decades, but its a pretty clear observation that actually forms the core of your side's argument.

The whole debate about gentrification revolves around the slow and 'deliberate' process of whites buying blacks out of their homes and shipping them off to 'shitty' neighborhoods - which btw, WERE nice neighborhoods. Detroit USED to be nice, Chicago USED to be nice - even in the areas that we now call ghettos.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 21 2021 07:53pm)

If your citations are Detroit and Chicago then you're disproving your own argument. We know the economic forces that drove those cities to decline and they weren't due to "the advent of white social justice".

Quote (LoverManGenius @ Jul 21 2021 08:54pm)

Its two examples of cities that used to be beautiful - until 'something' went wrong, that happens to correlate with a 'certain' demographic of people moving into them.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 21 2021 07:55pm)

Except it didn't correlate with that demographic moving in. That demographic was already there and working the jobs until the auto industry left those cities.