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Jul 21 2021 07:09pm
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Except they didn't start from zero after ww2, and Nigerian immigrants tend to come from college transfer programs.

Nice cherry picking.


Oh don't take my word for it - US crimes against the Japanese are well documented and I assure you that their persecution was every bit as brutal as anything the blacks ever faced. Their women were raped by returning G.Is - their men were forced into slavery or killed if suspected as spies.

All of their assets were seized and never returned - and what's interesting is that we hardly heard a word about it, because they never complained.
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Jul 21 2021 07:13pm
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Oh don't take my word for it - US crimes against the Japanese are well documented and I assure you that their persecution was every bit as brutal as anything the blacks ever faced. Their women were raped by returning G.Is - their men were forced into slavery or killed if suspected as spies.

All of their assets were seized and never returned - and what's interesting is that we hardly heard a word about it, because they never complained.


all the persecution on japanese americans where done by the fascist racist lefties.
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Oh don't take my word for it - US crimes against the Japanese are well documented and I assure you that their persecution was every bit as brutal as anything the blacks ever faced. Their women were raped by returning G.Is - their men were forced into slavery or killed if suspected as spies.

All of their assets were seized and never returned - and what's interesting is that we hardly heard a word about it, because they never complained.


Even if I assume all of that is true, which it isn't representative of the Japanese experience just so you know, it still wouldn't hold a candle to the 200 ish years we did all that, and more, and made our best effort to continue it well into the 70s.
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Jul 21 2021 07:16pm
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Even if I assume all of that is true, which it isn't representative of the Japanese experience just so you know, it still wouldn't hold a candle to the 200 ish years we did all that, and more, and made our best effort to continue it well into the 70s.


But it does though, because by the time the Japanese experienced this - Blacks were already well on their way to being given their full blown civil rights. Many blacks at this time already owned homes and were starting families when the Japanese were forced to reset back to nothing and begin all over again - pillaged, raped and humiliated by our Government.

While I'm on this timeline, I might as well mention the important fact that black families were also doing much better between 1945-1960 than they are now.

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But it does though, because by the time the Japanese experienced this - Blacks were already well on their way to being given their full blown civil rights. Many blacks at this time already owned homes and were starting families when the Japanese were forced to reset back to nothing and begin all over again - pillaged, raped and humiliated by our Government.


Its right after the Tulsa Massacre. Where the military assisted in burning down the richest black neighborhood in the country.

So what were you saying?
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Its right after the Tulsa Massacre. Where the military assisted in burning down the richest black neighborhood in the country.

So what were you saying?


The Tulsa massacre happened in 1921 - that isn't even within 20 years of the timeline we're talking about. Lmfao.
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Jul 21 2021 07:21pm
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The Tulsa massacre happened in 1921 - that isn't even within 20 years of the timeline we're talking about. Lmfao.


You know that red lining and school segregation continues to this day with loosely disguised zoning laws right?

Seriously, Both before and after ww2 blacks have had it way worse than any group of asian immigrants. In many ways the asian disadvantage was mitigated with the model minority stereotype, but youd have to sort them more granularly than "asian" to understand where that succeeded and failed.
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Jul 21 2021 07:24pm
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You know that red lining and school segregation continues to this day with loosely disguised zoning laws right?

Seriously, Both before and after ww2 blacks have had it way worse than any group of asian immigrants. In many ways the asian disadvantage was mitigated with the model minority stereotype, but youd have to sort them more granularly than "asian" to understand where that succeeded and failed.


Sure, we can get to modern day red lining in a minute.

But lets quickly comb over what you just brought up, because I'm still interested in that point. Blacks had a rich neighborhood in 1921 - as you pointed out, and actually they had quite a few more as well - going into 1930 and beyond. This pattern of success seems to stop around 1960 - interestingly enough, correlating almost directly with the advent of white social justice.

Don't you find that strange? What happened? Are we more racist now - or back then, when whites literally HAD to keep the black man down?
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Jul 21 2021 07:35pm
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Sure, we can get to modern day red lining in a minute.

But lets quickly comb over what you just brought up, because I'm still interested in that point. Blacks had a rich neighborhood in 1921 - as you pointed out, and actually they had quite a few more as well - going into 1930 and beyond. This pattern of success seems to stop around 1960 - interestingly enough, correlating almost directly with the advent of white social justice.

Don't you find that strange? What happened? Are we more racist now - or back then, when whites literally HAD to keep the black man down?


What do you have to support that "the pattern of success seems to stop around the 60's", and what does that same metric look like for other demographics?
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Jul 21 2021 07:40pm
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What do you have to support that "the pattern of success seems to stop around the 60's", and what does that same metric look like for other demographics?


Lets point to what we already know:

Blacks had enough success during the most racist period of American history, that they were at least able to thrive on their own - so much so, that this enraged the KKK and their affiliates enough that they thought they needed to do something about it... So the Tulsa massacre ensues.

What's interesting to me is that Black people have already proven resilient and resourceful enough to thrive - even in spite of living in a 95% white country that hates them - and those whites having the social acceptance to be literal Nazis at that time. Yet in modern times, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Social justice is immensely popular and mainstream, so much so that you can be cancelled for the simple crime of disagreeing with it too 'aggressively.' The KKK is harder to find than big foot, barely - if ever making any meaningful appearance in public, much less marching into black neighborhoods and attacking them - yet we see blacks failing pretty much ubiquitously, so what gives?
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