Quote (bogie160 @ Feb 25 2022 01:50pm)
Ukraine launched a military operation to unify the country, as Russia and many other countries have done before. Countries have the implicit right to prevent dissolution of their borders, or they can't truly be called states. The Russians understood this when they engaged in a large, protracted struggle to reintegrate Chechnya.
Overt Russian support for the separatists is the main reason why these regions are so isolated, poor, and dependent on Russian resources today. Russia needs to accept the blame for the thousands of civilian deaths in a conflict they started. Without Russian interference, there would only be united Ukraine.
What's the line between protecting borders and irredentism?
How can it be anything but arbitrary geopolitical views. The democratically elected Ukrainian government was overthrown in 2014. Russia annexed Crimea and occupied Donestk and Lutansk, who remained in a state of frozen conflict with western Ukraine and completely outside their jurisdiction. And yet they are all former territories of the Soviet Union only 30ish years ago. Does Russia have a legitimate right to thwart NATO expansion and CIA seized countries in their back yard? Do the Crimeans have a legitimate claim to self-governance when their democracy vanished overnight? Should Putin be able to reassemble the Soviet Union's empire one territory at a time?
It all boils down to labels put on arbitrary lines on maps, with one entity making one claim and another contradicting it. And who's claim wins out in the end? Might makes right. Russia was willing to take by force what the West won by politics, and was unwilling to defend. There are no implicit rights between nations, no grand schema of liberty. There are formal agreements on the relations of sovereign nations that last only up until those claims are put to the test, just like any insincere conviction. And whenever a world power invades a shithole, they can dress it up in the pretenses of necessity, of provocation, of self-defense, of hunting WMDs or repulsing NATO expansion.