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Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 21 2020 06:04pm)
This has already been discussed earlier.

In addition South Korea is seeing a secondary surge in cases.


um there is no surge.. they have been seeing about =/- 100 cases a day for about 7-9 days.
There serious % is one of the lowest. they are one of the poorest countries with large population. They are controlling it better than the US.
i'm not going back through jsp tabs. please explain in your short term grasp why they are so successful if not due to testing.

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FDA + CDC > WHO
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How can we get the corona virus on the ballot for the 2020 presidential election? Otherwise I'll have to write it in!
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if testing doesn't help please explain S. Korea's success


S. Korea ran two tests on every man, woman, and child due to the disparity in results. you were only negative if you passed both tests. they found the majority of the carriers were asymptomatic young adults that they quarantined for 2 weeks or until symptom resolution

we don't even have enough tests to give everyone one let alone perform up to evidence based metrics

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Mar 21 2020 09:30pm
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/epg8xe/surveillance-company-deploying-coronavirus-detecting-cameras

Who needs tests?! The future is now!

https://athena-security.com/

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Our Fever Detection COVID19 Screening System is now apart of our platform along with our gun detection system which connects directly to your current security camera system to deliver fast, accurate threat detection – including guns, knives, and aggressive action. Our system can also alert you to falls, accidents, and unwelcome visitors.


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"The AI detects it, and it says I have a 99.5 degrees temperature. It notices that I have a fever, and that I am infected," an Athena employee says during a video demonstration of the product.

Christopher Ciabarra, a co-founder of Athena, told Motherboard in a phone call, "We actually detect the person on the AI side, then we detect the face, and we look for the eyes."

"We take the temperature of the eyes because that's the closest point to the core of the person's body temperature," he added.

"Since higher temperature is one of the first symptoms, these cameras can be life-saving— warning the person that they could have the virus and encouraging that person to take serious steps to self-quarantine," the representative added in an email, suggesting that the company could deploy them at polling locations. "Although many voters today are bound to get it, steps in the coming weeks could prevent them from spreading the bug to loved ones and strangers alike."

The representative claimed that the software is accurate within half a degree and that it detects a dozen different parts on the body. They added the system has "no facial recognition, no personal tracking."


Now we have snake oil surveillance hardware and software. The future is looking bleak.

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Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Mar 21 2020 07:30pm)
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/epg8xe/surveillance-company-deploying-coronavirus-detecting-cameras

Who needs tests?! The future is now!

https://athena-security.com/





Now we have snake oil surveillance hardware and software. The future is looking bleak.



It's called 5g.
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Mar 21 2020 11:40pm
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/20/nolte-mere-8-days-ago-joe-biden-still-attacking-trumps-travel-bans/

Nolte isn't usually worth listening to but he's got a point here
From January 31st when Trump banned travel from China, to March 11th when Trump banned travel from the EU, Joe Biden was consistently attacking Trump and opposing the bans, even vowing that he'd "lift the ban" if elected. In a series of speeches and tweets, Biden labeled it xenophobia, racism, inhumane, fear-based, hysteria, fear-mongering and a stain on our nation. Biden was still actively crusading against the lockdown just 11 days ago, as late as March 12th, saying;
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1238254697695326209
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A wall will not stop the coronavirus.
Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it.
This disease could impact every nation and any person on the planet — and we need a plan to combat it.
7:05 PM · Mar 12, 2020


Now Joe Biden has flip flopped and said that Trump didn't do enough to stem the outbreak, that he wasn't proactive early enough. Biden can't hide behind an excuse that he was saying Trump was too late at the time- he was calling travel bans fear-mongering and racist and hysterical, not too-little-too-late. Now Biden is setting up his own Coronavirus response streams to oppose Trump's announcements and contradict him every time he holds an official briefing, doing his own little dress-up game to pretend he's president already.

With 99% of the media oxygen devoted to Coronavirus, about 95% of the national political attention is eyes on Trump, but Joe Biden screwed the pooch here. That's going to get remembered when we return to a normal election year.
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S. Korea ran two tests on every man, woman, and child due to the disparity in results. you were only negative if you passed both tests. they found the majority of the carriers were asymptomatic young adults that they quarantined for 2 weeks or until symptom resolution

we don't even have enough tests to give everyone one let alone perform up to evidence based metrics



Do we even have tests? I don’t know a single person who has been able to find one.
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Do we even have tests? I don’t know a single person who has been able to find one.


well, the increasing number of officially confirmed cases clearly suggests the US ramped up testing. apparently there is a severe shortage of reliable tests in virtually every state, but yeah, technically there ARE tests.
and to be fair, even though many nations seem to have severely underestimated the threat (at least partly by valuing the economy over human life), and south korea deserves all the praise they get for handling this issue, we should not forget that they did have a certain infrastructural advantage and preparedness when it comes to virus testing, due to their previous experience with MERS, and generally outstanding healthcare system.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 21 2020 10:40pm)
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/20/nolte-mere-8-days-ago-joe-biden-still-attacking-trumps-travel-bans/

Nolte isn't usually worth listening to but he's got a point here
From January 31st when Trump banned travel from China, to March 11th when Trump banned travel from the EU, Joe Biden was consistently attacking Trump and opposing the bans, even vowing that he'd "lift the ban" if elected. In a series of speeches and tweets, Biden labeled it xenophobia, racism, inhumane, fear-based, hysteria, fear-mongering and a stain on our nation. Biden was still actively crusading against the lockdown just 11 days ago, as late as March 12th, saying;
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1238254697695326209


Now Joe Biden has flip flopped and said that Trump didn't do enough to stem the outbreak, that he wasn't proactive early enough. Biden can't hide behind an excuse that he was saying Trump was too late at the time- he was calling travel bans fear-mongering and racist and hysterical, not too-little-too-late. Now Biden is setting up his own Coronavirus response streams to oppose Trump's announcements and contradict him every time he holds an official briefing, doing his own little dress-up game to pretend he's president already.

With 99% of the media oxygen devoted to Coronavirus, about 95% of the national political attention is eyes on Trump, but Joe Biden screwed the pooch here. That's going to get remembered when we return to a normal election year.


Nope. People don't even remember that Trump was impeached. No one knows who Adam Schiff is, no one remembers that Kamala Harris ran for president, and no one will remember Richard Burr. I'm amazed that you think this when the evidence is pretty clear that most Americans are more ignorant than Ghot.
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