there was one point in my life where i wanted to be a dietician. learned a whole lot about the body and how nutrition works. then i studied sociology, so learning about those two things painted a clear picture of why there's such an obesity epidemic in the first world. i'm especially frustrated to hear of the excuses and cop-outs obese people make because of this burden of knowledge.

at the end of the day, my conclusion will always be the same. it's none of my business. when electronic cigarettes were gaining popularity i started a retail LLC selling hardware exclusively aimed at existing smokers. you wouldn't believe the things that came out of some of these peoples mouths (had a dude with a cigarette in his hand ask me if "those things have given you cancer yet")

in my experience, no amount of hard facts, presuasion, or motivation will help even those those who walk into a door seeking help with their vices. for the most part, they already know why their habits are bad, they've justified their habits to themselves and have been since their habits incarnation.

that being said, judging others, especially strangers, benefits neither you, the person your judgment is aimed at, or onlookers perceiving it. there is no good that can come of it. even those who CAN help (not me) with a deep understanding of addiction and habit, wouldn't stand a chance on making an impact on somebody else's life in an impromptu scenario.

basically, what i'm trying to say, is don't be a dick. shaming fat people makes you look bad, and the fat person feel bad.

This post was edited by Wretch on Aug 19 2016 03:17pm

Kids around here use every opportunity possible to shame others,
it makes them feel superior.
The only way to help them is to help them. Literally. Words are but words.
Actually go on walks with them or show them neat stretches when ya stop by to smoke a cig on you way home from work. Anything helps
I'm a really attractive guy and fat chicks love it when I give them attention in regards to improving their health, they crave an actual hand up.
You don't need a dietician or professional anything to help the couch potatoes, just give them a good reason to go outside.

I'd go so far as to say that being a health professional with a stupid doctrine and dogma, preaching the latest and greatest superfood diets and new and improved workouts is more detrimental than good.


"How does that make you feel?"

This post was edited by MaliceMizer on Aug 19 2016 03:29pm

i especially agree with the bolded.

on the contrary, i'm not even sure giving them the basic facts "eat whole foods, calculate calories in/out to achieve xxx deficit, and exercise 30mins a day doing what you enjoy" would be effective either. it's just as you said; giving them a reason. the "help" is much more psychological and is different for every individual. there is no easy or widescale solution to poor health habits.

momscience: the post

So to you bringing back the dead is just a matter of technology?

And where is the mind itself at? Which gland or organ? There is a lot in there. Most of what we know about it is What it oozes and what happens afterward.

We know about neuroreceptors but that isn't the mind. Those are neuroreceptors.

This post was edited by Skinned on Aug 19 2016 04:21pm

we're not talking about dead people, you were talking about taking something apart and putting it back together as is - something we don't have the technology to do (yet)

If you take apart a cat the emergent property of life will be lost. If it is just a sum of parts you could reassemble it with nothing lost. Except something will be lost, because you will just have a dead cat.



Nuance is hard for some people. Nobody blames you.

This post was edited by Skinned on Aug 19 2016 04:24pm

If life is an emergent property then by definition you can take something apart and put it back together to reestablish that property.

A human mind isn't a thing though. It has no form, exists intentionally, and is elusive to describe. It isn't empirically measurable but it references itself as the measure of all things.

It is weird.

This post was edited by Skinned on Aug 19 2016 04:29pm

None of that means you couldn't restore the mind by putting the brain back the way it was. All evidence I've seen actually points to the opposite, that our mind is a product of the physical state of our brain.