Quote (Ghot @ Oct 9 2017 10:26pm)

Well first off, we went over this long ago.

Second the problem for those that don't understand the Electoral College, is that it evens out the STATE'S votes...not the citizens.
This is a republic, not a democracy. This is the way this country was designed to work.

This is the United STATES of American.......NOT the United Citizens of America.

Quote (Voyaging @ Oct 9 2017 10:28pm)

Republicanism is a form of democracy.

Either way, if the goal is to give states equal voting power (which is one of the fundamental problems with the system in the first place) there are still better solutions.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Oct 9 2017 10:36pm)

The electoral college really fucks over Democrats because Democratic states tend to be less idealogically tolerant - they have less Republicans in them. Massachusetts only has like 25% Republican. Even if Dem's win the popular vote, its sometimes only within their isolated bubble area.

Quote (Ghot @ Oct 9 2017 10:39pm)

Unaffiliated (2) Federalist (1) Democratic-Republican (4) Democratic (15) Whig (4) Republican (19) National Union (2) <---- ALL the presidents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States



/e We've had 4 Presidents assassinated. Three were republicans and one was democrat. (Abraham Lincoln [R], James A. Garfield [R], William McKinley [R], and John F. Kennedy [D])

Quote (Ghot @ Oct 9 2017 11:04pm)

Well, if you look at how many Reps vs. how many Dems won the elections, and how many of each were assassinated...it seems to balance out.

Quote (Ghot @ Oct 9 2017 10:04pm)

Well, if you look at how many Reps vs. how many Dems won the elections, and how many of each were assassinated...it seems to balance out.

Quote (Voyaging @ 10 Oct 2017 04:23)

A simple thought experiment in which the country consists of 300 million citizens in a single coastal state and 1 million citizens spread across 10 rural midwest states. The distortion of voting power in such a country that our current electoral system would produce would be ludicrous. Citizens should not have votes thousands of times more valuable because they happen to live one place rather than another. Obviously extreme, but it illustrates the problem.

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There are loads of electoral systems that have already been devised by expert political scientists, mathematicians, and statisticians that have been instituted in other countries, and it's really a shame that we have made no attempt to implement any of them despite them being mathematically superior.