Quote (fender @ Oct 13 2023 11:42am)

if you think acknowledging that changes anything, think again.

as soon as you DARE to criticise israel's inhumane acts, as soon as you dare to speak out against the killing of palestinian women and babies, as soon as you provide some political and historic context that goes back further than their chosen narrative, which begins exactly 6 days ago, you're labeled an anti-semite, terrorism supporter, jihadist.

those people don't do nuance. they don't mind the apartheid, they don't mind the oppression, they don't mind the decades of discrimination and dispossessing. all they want "revenge", all they want is blood. they don't even realise that people like them are the main cause for the radicalisation that leads to the unspeakable atrocities committed by both sides...

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BERLIN — A high-level state visit by Qatar's emir to Germany has raised fresh criticism of Berlin’s deal to import natural gas with the gulf state, which is seen as being a major sponsor of the Palestinian militant group Hamas.

Emir Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani met with Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock as well as President Frank-Walter Steinmeier in the German capital on Thursday. None of the meetings were followed by appearances in front of the press, a fact that underscores the political sensitivity of the visit.

Coinciding with the visit, some members of Scholz’s ruring coalition sharply criticized plans to import more liquified natural gas, or LNG, from Qatar.

"Future energy partnerships should only take place with partners who recognize Israel's right to exist and do not fight it," said Michael Kruse, the energy policy spokesperson of the liberal Free Democratic Party (FDP), which rules in a coalition with Scholz's center-left Social Democrats and Habeck's Greens.

But the terrorist attack on Israel perpetrated by Hamas gunmen coupled with the timing of the emir's visit to Berlin has triggered renewed scrutiny of the deal from inside Scholz’s ruling coalition.

"The barbaric attack by the terrorist Hamas shows how important it is to combat the financing of terrorism,” said Kruse, the FDP energy spokesperson.“If Hamas has received financial and non-material support from Qatar for years, Germany cannot buy billions of cubic meters of gas as a thank you."

Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 13 2023 01:25pm)

I don't doubt what Goomshill posted? Is this the Twilight Zone?

Let me slow it down to a 5 MPH neighborhood zone, because apparently this might be needed:

What Hamas did on 10/7 is horrific and was an attack predominately against civilians, many of whom were/are women and children, and should be condemned in every way possible. It is not resistance. It is not protest. It is not humane. It is terrorism.

Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 13 2023 03:44pm)

he's probably already on an FBI watchlist

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 13 2023 03:44pm)

might be more effective to pump him up and get him to volunteer for the IDF.

Quote (Bazi @ Oct 13 2023 11:46am)

Lold

There are few members here that are going to get hard ons if/when million+ Palestinians die , even if 99% of them are non Hamas. Necessary collateral damage. They will post the bombing videos and say murica

You will not have productive discourse with everyone on the planet no matter how many branches you extend

Quote (Handcuffs @ 13 Oct 2023 20:45)

It is very concerning the inability for people to see things through the lens of nuance.

You can condemn Hamas as an anti-Semitic terrorist organization, readily describe the 10/7 attack as an act of terrorism, and feel that Hamas needs to be eradicated while also recognizing that Palestine has been effectively made into the world's largest open air prison due to the egregious and inhumane acts of Israel.

This shit really isn't that complicated.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 13 2023 01:48pm)

Lol hopefully, posting red flags all day



I bet even the israelis would be like "hey bro....just like...chill ok?" :ph34r:

Quote (fender @ Oct 13 2023 11:53am)

it shouldn't be. but some people are simply not intelligent, informed, or mature enough to acknowledge that it's more complicated than their simplistic good vs. evil dichotomy.

bottom line, they simply can't be reasoned with. they just outright ignore the parts that don't fit into their narrative, and try to smear and silence you with ridiculous lies and accusations - even if you repeatedly stated the exact opposite of what they claim your position is.

Quote (NiRo_O @ Oct 13 2023 12:28pm)

Heard it on the media

Btw, do you condemn actions of 7th oct by Hamas?

Quote (SBD @ Oct 13 2023 02:05pm)

What media? I keep checking everything I know and can't find that figure anywhere.

I see headlines saying people trying to head the warning of Israel have been killed by airstrikes on their way out as they try to leave. Haven't seen anything on successful evacuation numbers.

You must be able to link it.