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A fact is a social construct because where you draw the line of certainty to call something a fact is social in nature.

There are certain things that will probably always be considered facts, but a decent amount of things you take for granted are not among those things.




Couldn't do this in one response? Had to make two?

I say again, if I drop you naked out of a plane, you can declaim the FACT that you are falling at 9.8m/sec^2, and that it is nothing more than a social construct, all the way to the ground.


/e This is one of the things that is wrong with politics. People can't seem to stick to "the King's English", if I may use the term.

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Couldn't do this in one response? Had to make two?

I say again, if I drop you naked out of a plane, you can declaim the FACT that you are falling at 9.8m/sec^2, is nothing more than a social construct, all the way to the ground.


/e This is one of the things that is wrong with politics. People can't seem to stick to "the King's English", if I may use the term.


Doesn't refute what I said
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 17 2017 08:55am)
Doesn't refute what I said




Dude, I know you are going to med school, be happy about yourself for that, even though we sometimes tease you about it.
Now, as to your quick Google and an edit of your 15090 post, no, photon interaction has nothing to do with magnetic fields. That would be electrons. As in the term electro-magnetic field.


A gravitational field is definitely a field, be it made of gravitons (current theory) or made of pac-men.
A magnetic field is in fact a field as well.

Facts are NOT social constructs, they are....facts. As I pointed out in my throwing you naked from a plane, example.
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Dude, I know you are going to med school, be happy about yourself for that, even though we sometimes tease you about it.
Now, as to your quick Google and an edit of your 15090 post, no, photon interaction has nothing to do with magnetic fields. That would be electrons. As in the term electro-magnetic field.


A gravitational field is definitely a field, be it made of gravitons (current theory) or made of pac-men.
A magnetic field is in fact a field as well.

Facts are NOT social constructs, they are....facts. As I pointed out in my throwing you naked from a plane, example.


I know you don't have a very good understanding of physics, but the standard model we have right now is that forces are due to charge carriers, and the electromagnetic force is carried by photons. They are quantum in nature which gives the appearance of a field.

You aren't even trying to understand what I'm saying. You're just trying to be "right".
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Oct 17 2017 07:11am
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I know you don't have a very good understanding of physics, but the standard model we have right now is that forces are due to charge carriers, and the electromagnetic force is carried by photons. They are quantum in nature which gives the appearance of a field.

You aren't even trying to understand what I'm saying. You're just trying to be "right".




Well when you are in med school, if you run into any physics majors, I wouldn't state that. The amount of laughter that follows, will FEEL as if it were a ...force field. :)
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Well when you are in med school, if you run into any physics majors, I wouldn't state that. The amount of laughter that follows, will FEEL as if it were a ...force field. :)


I mean, we can just add this into your big list of not understanding physics. Right up there with basic gravity and kinematics.
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Oct 17 2017 07:17am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 17 2017 09:13am)
I mean, we can just add this into your big list of not understanding physics. Right up there with basic gravity and kinematics.




Well then why don't you provide a link to this extraordinary information. LOL
Cause I want to see if they mention ancient aliens as well. :)


/e Ah, no link? Or would linking a Wikipedia article that you don't understand, make it kinda hard to explain your reasoning?

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Quote (Ghot @ Oct 17 2017 09:17am)
Well then why don't you provide a link to this extraordinary information. LOL
Cause I want to see if they mention ancient aliens as well. :)


/e Ah, no link? Or would linking a Wikipedia article that you don't understand, make it kinda hard to explain your reasoning?




/e Here, I'll help.

This is the classic definition of a magnetic field:

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Moving point charges, such as electrons, produce complicated but well known magnetic fields that depend on the charge, velocity, and acceleration of the particles. Magnetic field lines form in concentric circles around a cylindrical current-carrying conductor, such as a length of wire.



But in your urgency to make it seem like you know something about whether a magnetic field is a FACT or not...you Googled: magnetic field and discovered this definition...


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Magnetic fields can be produced by moving electric charges and the intrinsic magnetic moments of elementary particles associated with a fundamental quantum property, their spin.[1][2] In special relativity, electric and magnetic fields are two interrelated aspects of a single object, called the electromagnetic tensor; the split of this tensor into electric and magnetic fields depends on the relative velocity of the observer and charge. In quantum physics, the electromagnetic field is quantized and electromagnetic interactions result from the exchange of photons.


This is a THEORY my friend. It's "probably correct" but who really knows.
Neither of these definitions change the FACT that magnetic fields exist.

Which is what started all this. You trying to justify that nothing is a fact (or truth) except pure mathematics.


Yes, I was a physics major, in the 80's. No I can not possibly keep up with all the information that Googling can.
Yes, I spent 100's of hours messing with kinematics equations, without ever knowing they were called such.
They are so basic, they didn't need a name, when we were struggling just to survive the classes and the labs.


I guess the real issue here is, why are you so unsure of yourself and YOUR accomplishments, that you feel the need to belittle other's accomplishments.?

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Quote (majorblood @ Oct 17 2017 06:07am)
does anyone include you?


Yes. Ofc. I'm not special.


Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 17 2017 07:11am)
How can you determine what is real with zero uncertainty?


He believes he can view the atomic world 1:1 with eyesight alone.

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He believes he can view the atomic world 1:1 with eyesight alone.



Well I'm nearsighted, but not that much. :)

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