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Sep 30 2017 09:25pm
Quote (fender @ Sep 30 2017 10:04pm)
considering the insane amounts of money that flows into politics and how it holds back meaningful change AGAINST the will of the majority of people in many cases (environmental protection / gun regulation / wall street regulation / military budget / war on drugs / private prisons...), i think it's pretty naive to claim that only "low-info people" would suspect a massive influence by these corporate ties and donations - especially with a president who so blatantly lied to KEEP everyone "low info" and won't even release his taxes...

but sure, so you think the people that benefit from cutting back environmental protection, regulation of wallstreet, and lowering the corporate tax rate to 20% are "the people" of america?
because that's who he vowed to serve during his inauguration, in case you already forgot.

also, when you're so sure that a cabinet with an unprecedented number of former goldman sachs, exxon mobile... executives just intended to provide "relevant experience" in all the positions they hold (hilarious), i'm curious to learn what "draining the swamp" means to you then - and if you think he's fulfilling that promise.


You can point to polls where the majority of the American people support certain things, but they elected a president, and he's going to push his agenda. Your argument would make sense if you said "special interests donate money to campaigns in a way that doesn't represent the will of the American people", but saying Trump is beholden to these interests who donate to him because he's the better choice(from the donor's perspective) is just nonsense. It doesn't make any sense, you haven't provided any evidence for it. It's one of the most used talking points of politically ignorant people.

Trump doesn't believe more regulation on the environment and wall street is going to benefit our society. He does think lowering the corporate tax rate is going to help our economy. I'm waiting for you to provide an argument which supports the idea that he's in the pocket of special interests.

I think draining the swamp was a silly bumper sticker line that pointed to an end of the establishment's rule on things. If a person from a great financial institution wants to make America great again, I don't think the men and women chanting "drain the swamp" would have a problem with it.
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Oct 1 2017 04:57pm


the mayor would rather print tshirts and say trump is bad, rather than give aid

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Oct 1 2017 11:20pm
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You can point to polls where the majority of the American people support certain things, but they elected a president, and he's going to push his agenda. Your argument would make sense if you said "special interests donate money to campaigns in a way that doesn't represent the will of the American people", but saying Trump is beholden to these interests who donate to him because he's the better choice(from the donor's perspective) is just nonsense. It doesn't make any sense, you haven't provided any evidence for it. It's one of the most used talking points of politically ignorant people.

Trump doesn't believe more regulation on the environment and wall street is going to benefit our society. He does think lowering the corporate tax rate is going to help our economy. I'm waiting for you to provide an argument which supports the idea that he's in the pocket of special interests.

I think draining the swamp was a silly bumper sticker line that pointed to an end of the establishment's rule on things. If a person from a great financial institution wants to make America great again, I don't think the men and women chanting "drain the swamp" would have a problem with it.


There's already overwhelming evidence he's in the pocket of Russia.
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Oct 1 2017 11:23pm
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There's already overwhelming evidence he's in the pocket of Russia.


mhm
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Oct 1 2017 11:26pm
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There's already overwhelming evidence he's in the pocket of Russia.


Uhh?? No there is no proof... Please show me this evidence and facts... Clinton on the other hand..... Well.... Her selli g them 20% of our uranium and knowing Putin and having that relationship... Shows more evidence of her being in there pocket... Fact is fact stop being silly person
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Oct 1 2017 11:34pm
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Uhh?? No there is no proof... Please show me this evidence and facts... Clinton on the other hand..... Well.... Her selli g them 20% of our uranium and knowing Putin and having that relationship... Shows more evidence of her being in there pocket... Fact is fact stop being silly person
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Fact is fact, while parroting a debunked talking point about uranium. How adorable.
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Oct 1 2017 11:41pm
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Fact is fact, while parroting a debunked talking point about uranium. How adorable.


Uh huh?
Which alternate delusional fantasy labd do you live in?
Please do tell me!
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Oct 1 2017 11:42pm
Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Oct 1 2017 09:34pm)
Fact is fact, while parroting a debunked talking point about uranium. How adorable.


the fact is Russia paid for BLM support, that's for true
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Oct 2 2017 12:09am
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mhm

Quote (WindowMode @ Oct 2 2017 01:26am)
Uhh?? No there is no proof... Please show me this evidence and facts... Clinton on the other hand..... Well.... Her selli g them 20% of our uranium and knowing Putin and having that relationship... Shows more evidence of her being in there pocket... Fact is fact stop being silly person
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpInvestigation/wiki/doc/
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Oct 2 2017 12:20am
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mind pointing out something substantial? a lot of useless information there
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