Maybe people that work with money are qualified to work with money?

Oh yeah. Hillary would have hired the same people for the same reason.

Don't be naive...

I don't think I've ever seen another poster here make that point... it's definitely not overused.

Trump is firm on certain issues and loose on others. He's also not a guy who delves deep into policy... so he's persuadable. Those points just support my argument... the guy isn't making decisions based on the will of donors. That's a simple, lazy talking point that just bypasses all the various factors in political decisions.



People who understand that world often try to make money in it. Shocking.

This post was edited by IceMage on Sep 30 2017 08:12pm

Governor of Puerto Rico - video (today)


http://www.reuters.com/video/2017/09/30/significant-amounts-of-water-and-food-ha?videoId=372642082&videoChannel=1003

ahah so true

really? it has become somewhat of a standard excuse: "i don't agree with the point but i'm too lazy to support my opinion with facts so i just claim it's overused and therefore inherently meaningless" - the "logic" behind that is ridiculous.

concerning trump's views, i'm pretty sure many policies / executive orders concerning environmental protection are significantly "inspired / incentivised" by his donors and business partners in the fossil fuel industry. his deregulation of wall street and his tax plan also suggest personal / donor interest rather than his genuine concern about the american people...



it's not "shocking" or "surprising" at all - that's the whole point. the only "shocking" thing here is how many ppl actually believed this would CHANGE under trump just because he ran on a platform promising to "drain the swamp".

Donations to the clinton foundation stopped on november 9th. I dont see perfection but i see a step in the right direction

Do you honestly think people like Mattis and Sessions were also bought and paid for?

People use that line with every president. Apparently Obama was in the pocket of Wall Street cause he didn't order his justice department to throw a bunch of executives in jail. He used drones cause he was beholden to his military industrial complex donors. He wouldn't include a public option in his healthcare bill cause he didn't want to lose the insurance company donors. Just standard retardation that gets traction with low-information people.

When did Trump vow to strengthen environmental regulation? Or Wall Street regulation? When did he vow to increase taxes? He's pretty much doing what he said he would do... not sure how that equates to being in the pocket of donors.

Drain the swamp never meant Trump can't appoint people with relevant experience to his cabinet.

I'm glad an anti-Trump person like myself can provide some balance on this forum.

This post was edited by IceMage on Sep 30 2017 08:46pm

it doesnt, but a half-Austrian half-German from Dresden who posts on a d2 forum knows more about US politics than anyone else so he wins the argument bro

considering the insane amounts of money that flows into politics and how it holds back meaningful change AGAINST the will of the majority of people in many cases (environmental protection / gun regulation / wall street regulation / military budget / war on drugs / private prisons...), i think it's pretty naive to claim that only "low-info people" would suspect a massive influence by these corporate ties and donations - especially with a president who so blatantly lied to KEEP everyone "low info" and won't even release his taxes...

but sure, so you think the people that benefit from cutting back environmental protection, regulation of wallstreet, and lowering the corporate tax rate to 20% are "the people" of america?
because that's who he vowed to serve during his inauguration, in case you already forgot.

also, when you're so sure that a cabinet with an unprecedented number of former goldman sachs, exxon mobile... executives just intended to provide "relevant experience" in all the positions they hold (hilarious), i'm curious to learn what "draining the swamp" means to you then - and if you think he's fulfilling that promise.