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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 19 2022 08:48pm)
Elon musk confirmed GOP member

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lefties upset cause the dude asked for straight sex

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finally


Distracted Boyfriend Full Story


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funny :)
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lefties upset cause the dude asked for straight sex
funny :)


Sex "offered" at job interview... By the owner of company. Sounds legit ?

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Sex offered at job interview... By the owner of company. Sounds legit ?


that wouldnt be legit I never implied that, my comment still stands. HAHA
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whatever you have to tell yourself, marjorie. low-iq americans and their team sport mentality when it comes to politics...

again my question: you think those nine scumbags voted that way because they are merely being fiscally responsible but desperately looking for other ways to alleviate the situation? you can't possibly be that gullible. it's more political stunts by the dumbest and shittiest elected representatives you have. congrats for agreeing with them. simple people "think" alike it seems...


I didn't claim their motivation was austerity for the sake of fiscal responsibility. That's your stupid assumption. It's obviously along the lines of "we're not going to reward this incompetent agency with more funding."

https://reason.com/2022/05/19/bidens-baby-formula-airlift-stunt-should-never-have-been-necessary/
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I didn't claim their motivation was austerity for the sake of fiscal responsibility. That's your stupid assumption. It's obviously along the lines of "we're not going to reward this incompetent agency with more funding."

https://reason.com/2022/05/19/bidens-baby-formula-airlift-stunt-should-never-have-been-necessary/


no it's not, marjorie - otherwise you'd see them trying to introduce alternative solutions to address the situation, which they aren't. it's obstructionism at all cost, it's "we don't care about poor people's babies", it's cruelty as a virtue. again, grats for being on their side.

btw, the link to that political edgelord site, hilariously claiming "markets work if you let them" (child labour, blair mountain, (shared) monopolies, slavery, piss-bottles... say hello), specifically says "should never have been necessary". and while it expectedly ignores the realities of free markets at work, and simplisticly tries to hammer home its dumb capitalist messaging, it still acknowledges that given the current situation, some kind of action IS indeed necessary.

sure, with the benefit of hindsight, you could make a reasonable argument about market protection, tariffs, and (indirect) subsidies to domestic producers - and many of that would be valid - just like counter-arguments regarding the importance of having at least a baseline of such crucial goods produced domestically. however, it'd be stupid and cruel to simply ignore there is no political will to fundamentally change that, and STILL insist it's right to oppose this bill because in your libertarian utopia, the problem wouldn't even have existed in the first place (which, again, is dumb and wrong, but whatever, everyone is free to believe whatever fantasy they want to believe in).
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no it's not, marjorie - otherwise you'd see them trying to introduce alternative solutions to address the situation, which they aren't. it's obstructionism at all cost, it's "we don't care about poor people's babies", it's cruelty as a virtue. again, grats for being on their side.

btw, the link to that political edgelord site, hilariously claiming "markets work if you let them" (child labour, blair mountain, (shared) monopolies, slavery, piss-bottles... say hello), specifically says "should never have been necessary". and while it expectedly ignores the realities of free markets at work, and simplisticly tries to hammer home its dumb capitalist messaging, it still acknowledges that given the current situation, some kind of action IS indeed necessary.

sure, with the benefit of hindsight, you could make a reasonable argument about market protection, tariffs, and (indirect) subsidies to domestic producers - and many of that would be valid - just like counter-arguments regarding the importance of having at least a baseline of such crucial goods produced domestically. however, it'd be stupid and cruel to simply ignore there is no political will to fundamentally change that, and STILL insist it's right to oppose this bill because in your libertarian utopia, the problem wouldn't even have existed in the first place (which, again, is dumb and wrong, but whatever, everyone is free to believe whatever fantasy they want to believe in).


You clearly understand nothing about people like us, fenderp. To people like us, government doing nothing IS THE SOLUTION. Like, get the fuck out of the way and stop raising barriers. We want people's babies taken care of by the government getting the fuck out of the way.

It wasn't free markets at work, but go ahead and keep lying to yourself.
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You clearly understand nothing about people like us, fenderp. To people like us, government doing nothing IS THE SOLUTION. Like, get the fuck out of the way and stop raising barriers. We want people's babies taken care of by the government getting the fuck out of the way.

It wasn't free markets at work, but go ahead and keep lying to yourself.


stop deluding yourself, marjorie. history has shown what happens with markets when the government doesn't regulate them properly: child labour, blair mountain, (shared) monopolies, slavery, piss-bottles, exploitation, leaded water, irreversibly destroyed environment...

you also ignore the REAL problem that presents itself right now. all your moronic ideals of what an market should look like aside, even someone as ideologically brainwashed as you has to realise that there is no political majority to implement such a libertarian dystopia, right? so commending the idiots who, for pure obstructionist reasons, opposed a bill to deal with the formula shortage, is highly disingenuous.

btw, here's the most likely scenario for your free market solution: american manufacturers would have been pushed out a long time ago, you'd be exclusively importing cheap chinese formula, and hundreds of thousands of american babies would have been poisoned with melamine back in 2008.
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Quite to the contrary, the issue was government regulators not doing their job. We shouldn't need to choose between babies dying of poisoned formula and babies starving. If the factories had been actually been operating up to code and regulatory agencies assuring it, they wouldn't have needed to shut down, and there wouldn't be a recall, and wouldn't be a shortage. But the democrats in response to this failure have taken the foolish approach of just throwing more money at the problem, as if the issue wasn't bureaucratic incompetence and ineffectiveness. Something you can't rectify by siphoning more public funds into a bottomless pit. How would increasing the FDA's budget and hiring more public servants deal with the fact that the existing bureaucracy simply ignored a whistleblower report that the Abbott facility was both committing wanton safety violations and falsifying records and failing to test formula?
Not to mention, if anything, monopolization is one of the biggest issues here. It was market forces that resulted in only four manufacturers producing 90% of the formula. There is no free market, the natural result of economic deregulation. That concentration is the proximate cause of this crisis.

If kindergarteners were going hungry in Minneapolis, I wouldn't want democrats to "solve" it by sending millions more to Feeding Our Future. But I wouldn't want libertarians to say only kids who can afford a lunch should be able to eat, either.
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