But this doesnt add up. The black vote has never been about he margins for Democrats, it's about turnout. And with a tactic like this one, they risk depressing black turnout. This tradeoff might yield a net-gain in Arizona and Texas, but be a net-negative in PA, WI, MI, MN and NC, and dicey in FL where the latino vote is very idiosyncratic. Since Dems wont win Texas unless the entire election is a landslide anyway, this tradeoff is worsening Biden's position in the EC.

I do agree that long-term, the Rust Belt will flip to Republicans and the Sun Belt trend toward Democrats and be their best bet at winning elections. But the polls make it clear that we're not there yet in 2020. The polls consistently show the Rust Belt battlegrounds being more favorable to Biden than the Sun Belt ones. In 2020, the path of least resistance for Biden clearly goes through the Rust Belt. Arizona is the only Sun Belt state where it makes sense for the Biden campaign to fully invest in this year. (If we consider perennial swing state Florida to be sui generis.)

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 7 2020 08:56am

i didnt say it made sense or added up. perhaps they have enough data to support sufficient turnout #s for black American voters no matter what (since their candidate is screaming that he hates black people everytime someone hands him a microphone) and they rather aim at getting some additional latino turnout. the (D)s did done some mind-boggling moves in 2016 so a doozy like this isn't beyond their realm of doing.

Yeah, perhaps they're overconfident once again and think they have the election locked up anyway, so they're now trying to win Texas to make an example and humiliate the other side... or something crazy like that.

The only people who would be offended by Biden's statement are SJWs and concern trolls. Black voting patterns are substantially less diverse than Latinos. There's no such thing as the "Latino vote" due to the diversity of political beliefs within the community. You need more granularity with Latinos just like you do with white people. In addition, there are far fewer black immigrants compared to Latinos/Hispanics. In 1980, about 3% of the black population was foreign born whereas almost 30% of the Hispanic population was foreign born. In 2013, almost 10% of the black population was foreign born whereas a third of Hispanics were foreign born.

Now, Biden obviously put his foot in his mouth because he's a poor communicator, but this is nonsense. Black people and Latinos couldn't care less about this statement because it's true! The statement wasn't used to demean either side. As my friend excellence says, pale pasty privileged people need to actually INTERACT with the average person from these communities. These "offended" people are ridiculously out of touch.

If China intervenes for Biden like Russia has and will intervene for Trump will the Trump-led right still find this foreign influence palatable?

I can see this happening, China trying to help the Democrats unseat Trump.

This post was edited by Skinned on Aug 7 2020 04:02pm

Dude... eat a snickers!

still accusing ‘russia’ of “hacking the election” and that Obama and Biden let it happen? and your plan is to vote for one of these individuals to be in a position to let our elections be “hacked” again?

Two otherwise smart men.

I've never seen any evidence excellence is smart.