Quote (Jupe @ 12 Feb 2023 15:52)

Oh yes, I'm most certainly misrepresenting the loudest and most influential part of the trans community, who according to you, don't represent the community at all...

Quote (fender @ Feb 12 2023 04:49pm)

yes, there are some obnoxious assholes amongst their community and allies, who completely overreact to bigotry

Quote (SBD @ Feb 12 2023 12:56pm)

Dumb bitch thinks she can bully trans, what a horrible person.


>Proceeds to try to bully people playing games online


What a short sighted group of people.

Quote (fender @ Feb 12 2023 07:49am)

so you think a majority or even all trans people actually want jk rowling dead, and for that reason we should oppose legislation aimed at providing them with basic rights and prevent discrimination? is that your point?

yes, there are some obnoxious assholes amongst their community and allies, who completely overreact to bigotry and even legitimate concerns, but your silly attempt to act like they are representative of the whole community, and that their behaviour somehow justifies discrimination and opposing equal rights, is just blatantly dishonest.

the whole "person x was mean to me, so i'm just defending myself when i use my influence to lobby against the rights of the whole group they belong to" argument is just incredibly stupid. it's islamophobia 2.0 - "some muslims did terrible things, so let's ban all of them". no wonder it's the same morons who constantly fall for this culture war bullshit...

Quote (fender @ Feb 12 2023 09:43pm)

i literally told you i can't think of one, and asked YOU because you claimed they wanted "blanket immunity" from it. i assumed to make such a broad claim, one would have at least some examples in mind.

i can tell you what TYPE of criticism i'd consider "reasonable" though, if that's what you're meant: criticism that is based of factual / statistical evidence, that can reasonably be applied to the group as a whole (since that was your claim) - and not just to some obnoxious individuals that are falsely portrayed as representative of the whole trans community. i mean criticism that fairly (applying common sense and a good faith approach to weighing conflicting interests against each other) describes current or potential issues with trans rights - and is not just fear- and hate-mongering, based on fringe or completely made up incidents.

Quote (Plaguefear @ 12 Feb 2023 19:32)

So i said the community does not accept reasonable criticism to which you replied that they do but you can not think of a single example of reasonable criticism..
I guess i don't have to respond really.

Quote (Jupe @ Feb 12 2023 05:43am)

puberty blockers/hormone treatment being touted as 'safe' and 'reversible' for children
rate of detransistioners being disregarded/labelled transphobic
treatment of trans children who have coinciding mental illness
affirmative care issues
traditionally women-only zones issues
the hogwarts game fiasco (the article excellence posted is pretty hilarious)

Off the top of my head here. But maybe raising these issues and getting 'cancelled' on twitter (or fired from your job lol) isn't 'representative of the whole trans community' idk how to tackle that. I can tell you personally that some trans people I know have tried to convince other gay people I know that they are trans and the ensuing drama is great :rofl: but I doubt that's common.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Feb 12 2023 02:31pm)

The rate of willing detransition is vanishing small. The overwhelming majority of detransitioners were bullied by their family into it or lost healthcare coverage required to maintain it.

Quote (El1te @ Feb 12 2023 12:03pm)

what basic rights do they not have? they have the exact same rights as any other person