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Sep 29 2022 08:41am
clearly russia did this.
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Sep 29 2022 08:43am
Russian Ships Spotted Near Nord Stream Pipelines Before Explosions: Report

Russian navy support ships were reportedly spotted near the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines before they were ruptured by explosions. The claims come as Moscow has again denied involvement in the suspected sabotage, instead blaming the U.S.

Citing Western intelligence officials, CNN said that the alleged presence of Russian vessels was being investigated as a cause of underwater explosions in the Baltic Sea, as Moscow faces accusations that it's trying to manipulate energy flows to hurt Europe

However, three U.S. officials said to CNN that America had no clear explanation for the explosions on Monday, which caused three separate and simultaneous leaks in the two pipelines that link Russia with Germany. On Thursday, Sweden said it found a fourth leak.

Denmark and Sweden are investigating what caused the explosion, but it could take up to two weeks to approach the site of the explosions due to pressure in the pipes, CNN said.

A Danish military official said that Russian vessels regularly operated in the area and had stepped up their activities there to test Western awareness, but this did not mean in itself that Moscow was responsible for the suspected attacks.

Senior Western officials have not directly blamed Russia, although a major suspect, while the Kremlin has dismissed speculation that it was behind the damaged pipelines.


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Sep 29 2022 08:47am
https://metro.co.uk/video/russian-state-tv-discusses-sabotaging-british-undersea-cables-pipelines-2784127/


Russians now openly discussing sabotaging British undersea cables and pipelines
Guess blowing up the pipes was not enough
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Sep 29 2022 09:02am
Quote (Palasan @ Sep 29 2022 04:47pm)
https://metro.co.uk/video/russian-state-tv-discusses-sabotaging-british-undersea-cables-pipelines-2784127/


Russians now openly discussing sabotaging British undersea cables and pipelines
Guess blowing up the pipes was not enough


Makes sense, if they can find proof it wasn't them then it has to be a NATO country. How are you going to protect kilometer long pipelines in the future? You can't. You can only threaten to retaliate.
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Sep 29 2022 09:04am
Quote (Palasan @ Sep 29 2022 09:43am)

A Danish military official said that Russian vessels regularly operated in the area


they're always in the general area, its the Baltic, so are EU vessels, and neither was obviously there at the time of the blast, and anyone who put an ounce of preparation into it would have used time delayed fuses if their goal was to be surreptitious. If we had a smoking gun we'd hear about how we have a smoking gun. The best thing we could hope for right now is that if delayed fuses were used, there might be an unexploded bomb that misfired and could be recovered.
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Sep 29 2022 09:08am

To give you guys an idea where the gas leaks are located

Number 1 benefactor of the situation is Poland. The pipeline going through Poland is still intact, they earn lots of money through transit. Now, they're going to receive gas from Norway and sell us at 8x the price. That one wasn't attacked either, what a suprise.

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Sep 29 2022 11:33am
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Sep 29 2022 05:52pm)


Lmao
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Sep 29 2022 09:37pm
Quote (Djunior @ 29 Sep 2022 16:26)
That's quite an expensive and illogical way to make a statement.

In terms of proving that he has the capability, I guess it's sound logic that a nation capable of producing nuclear subs is also capable of blowing up a pipeline in very shallow waters.

He doesn't need to prove that he can do that.

Of course Russia has the ability to outright torpedo undersea pipelines with one of their submarines, that was never in doubt. They could not pull this off, however, without being detected, so this kind of attack on our critical infrastructure would immediately trigger Article 5 and lead to war with NATO. What the attacks on Nord Stream showed, by contrast, is that it is possible to blow up vulnerable infrastructure in the oceans undetected. Since declaring war against Russia comes with the highest possible stakes, NATO is clearly not gonna do that in reaction to a hypothetical attack on our gas pipelines later in the winter, not unless they find ironclad proof for Russian responsibility. The attacks on Nord Stream showed that it's possible to blow them up without leaving sufficient evidence.

Both sides, Russia and NATO, know that the Russians could again get away with a similar, future attack on our pipelines unless we catch them red-handed. The attack against his own, dead pipelines served as a (risk-free) proof of concept for such an attack, it signaled to the West that Putin has the capability and the audacity to pull off such a maneuver. Additionally, it (re)introduced panic in the natural gas market and sent prices soaring again, something which is clearly in Russia's interest. And last but not least, it diminished the potential benefit of a change in leadership in the Kremlin, which (preemptively?) takes the wind out of the sails of a potential/hypothetical coup.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 29 2022 09:40pm
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Sep 29 2022 10:01pm
I’m here for the RU bots claiming the torpedo codes were on Hunters laptop that got secretly stashed in Mar Largo and was mistaken for Trumps will
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