Is it arbitrary many species evolved into a male/female divide? It seems to me this is due to the circumstances within nature itself. You can refer to that divide however you want, less it does not change the fact that the divide is there regardless of humans putting a label in it.

Id say youre all wrong, nature didnt create anything, you did. You just said that YOU are throwing marbles in the box. There is nothing natural about that.

So let's sort people into big heads and little heads. The objective cutoff is my head size.

It's based on biology

imposing categories isnt the disagreement, their existence before anyone observes their similarity is. categories can exist before their labelled. we're going to find similarities between some odd bug species we don't even know exist yet in the amazon at some point, but they exist right now in a category.

but yes, you can say it was made via happenstance. people make things by accident all the time, the first person to accidentally let his marshmellow start on fire found out that burnt marshmellows still taste delicious to people with good taste.

Nature makes people above 6 feet tall and below. If we never sort them into "bigs" and "smalls" does the category still exist?

Of course not. There's an infinite way to categorize things. They only come into existence when we actually choose to categorize them.

Otherwise we have to accept that we all belong to an infinite number of useless categories innately.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Mar 31 2022 01:53pm

They all are.
All 3 saw there was only two choices.

netflix is really going at it with his pointless drivel

We should also mention 1) King james was a flaming homosexual and 2) the only mention of homosexuality in the bible was in the context of incest, not just a man with a man or woman with a woman.



This is a lie, there are societies with up to five genders some of which predate christianity.


Hijras are men who consider themselves to be women. They behave like women, use makeup, and wear female clothes. They are legally recognized as the third gender in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Nepal. However, not all hijras like this classification and prefer to be categorized as women.Hijras have been recognized in India for thousands of years and are even mentioned in sacred Hindu writings. However, they fell out of public favor when the British colonists passed a law classifying them as criminals in 1897.

Oh look a society with multiple genders.. oh look who attacked it.. white colonists..

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Mar 31 2022 02:18pm

no. as i said previously we can create subjective categories, and nature can create objective categories. but not all categories are subjective.

nature creates animals that through bites and stings can kill other animals with venom and poison. this category of animals existed millions of years before we created terms for this method of killing.

we belong to an infinite number of useless categories, and a number of useful ones too. some subjective, some objective.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Mar 31 2022 02:20pm

We do categorize people into big and small, and quite often, but it's far less important and leaves far less of a societal mark. Categorization based on sex is perhaps both the most obvious and the most useful categorization we can come up with, as it would be to every animal where sexual dimorphism is present.

I've met ostensibly educated people (i.e. members of the college educated managerial class) who refuse to believe that even very weak men are physically superior to the vast majority of women. Some of them refuse to believe there's a physical difference between men and women at all. They frame the world differently, and in large part because they've been taught to disregard the importance of more traditional frames of reference. The only thing "wrong" about it is that it's not a particularly useful frame through which to comprehend reality.