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Dec 2 2021 02:02pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Dec 2 2021 02:51pm)
Yeah it’s definitely strange, & makes you wonder who green-lit a years old, innocent-looking picture for a monster who just murdered a bunch of his classmates


odd to even work out the bias, make the shooter look like a kid so u can demonize guns instead of mental illness and/or bullying by his classmates?

maybe they think infantilizing the shooter is the most effective way to blame the gun and no one else.

we should just pass a law that u can only refer to them as shooter #67, and each year it rolls over. shooters will never be anything but a number, no photo, no name, just a pile of shit number. its one of the few things im willing to piss on the first amendment for.
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So he used the German education system to get a job in America.

That's even worse for your argument lol. Have you seen the cost versus return on America education compared to europe?


no, he went to an american trade school for his solar panel job

it was some kind of program financed by both the state and the company he works for, it was almost free in the end

thats what i am saying the whole time, there is opportunity and money everywhere, but most people would rather go into debt to party a few years while getting a shitty degree

everyone knows that american education aka universities are mostly a scam and obviously paying 100k+ for a useless degree is a terrible cost vs return

your fault, if you are doing anything but STEM, medicine and law

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What are you talking about? Poverty is a generational thing that can be linked to zip code and the primary determinant is what your parent's level of education is. I work with two doctors whose fathers and grandfathers are doctors. Being a medical doctor runs in that family. Being a bipolar alcoholic with a diminished life span runs in mine and I've never had a living grandpa and my parents died young as fuck, my dad dropped out of high school and had to take care of himself at 16. I'm the first person in my family to ever go to college and I hope my kids aren't as fucking poor as I was, because there were times we didn't have toilet paper and had to wipe our ass with newspapers we collected and we ate things my dad shot off of trees or by the river like squirrels and rabbits.

I work with people who live outside and who just don't have the tools to get anywhere else, even with a lot of help. One guy had a bad disability from jumping out of a tree onto a deer in this old hunting technique and breaking his shoulder. If he had any good fucking tools to escape poverty would he be jumping out of trees on enormous animals with spikes growing out of their fucking heads?

What an enormously privileged thing to say. Only a young white kid from the suburbs would believe this lol.

Some people are pretty fucked no matter what you do. Being attractive helps a lot and affects peoples' willingness to help you.


You can be born with disadvantages and certainly some people are delt a bad hand. That doesn't mean you have to remain there. There are countles of examples of people refusing being stuck in the cycle of poverty, with the biggest disadvantages you can think of. Yet dispite all the odds they CHOSE to get off their ass and do something about it. From homeless to the ugliest people with no limbs have made fortunes.

When you literally cannot mentally function and or living in North Korea or a slave under a whip, then you do not have a choice. You become bound to your environment even if you tried.
There is unfortunately too many glass 1/2 empty people who are not really interested in changing their life. They rather remain where they are and complain.

You may start poor but that doesn't mean you need to finish poor aswell. That's what the founding fathers gave us a choice
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You can be born with disadvantages and certainly some people are delt a bad hand. That doesn't mean you have to remain there. There are countles of examples of people refusing being stuck in the cycle of poverty, with the biggest disadvantages you can think of. Yet dispite all the odds they CHOSE to get off their ass and do something about it. From homeless to the ugliest people with no limbs have made fortunes.

When you literally cannot mentally function and or living in North Korea or a slave under a whip, then you do not have a choice. You become bound to your environment even if you tried.
There is unfortunately too many glass 1/2 empty people who are not really interested in changing their life. They rather remain where they are and complain.

You may start poor but that doesn't mean you need to finish poor aswell. That's what the founding fathers gave us a choice


This is a systemic thing with capitalism which basically is the rich get richer. For every fortune maker there's a ton more poor ppl made who won't get anywhere near the compensation they deserve because a corporate is profit driven and is supposed to be under this system. Or are you one of those who thinks Jeff bezos literally earned every dollar in his net worth?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 3 2021 07:43am)
For someone who's savvy, healthy and mobile (no family ties keeping him in one specific place) , the opportunities are almost infinite. But that doesnt apply to everyone.

Also, nowdays, anyone with an IQ below 85 or so is completely out of luck.


Even then there are dumb people making stupid money. Just look at all these social media influencers making the dumbest things to the bank, just one example. Another thing that I don't really get is why people force themselves to only do particular job and then say I don't get paid enough. Business is a wonderful tool, pick a trade many of them pay decent. Lacking brain power? Ask for help, get a partner who helps you with brain/admin things and you go do the grunt work if that's all you can do. Keep upgrading your skill set, read books.
There are children who haven't even finished highschool with very little life experience making more money baking cookies for gods sake.

Quote (GodSmiter @ Dec 3 2021 10:14am)
This is a systemic thing with capitalism which basically is the rich get richer. For every fortune maker there's a ton more poor ppl made who won't get anywhere near the compensation they deserve because a corporate is profit driven and is supposed to be under this system. Or are you one of those who thinks Jeff bezos literally earned every dollar in his net worth?


I don't think Bezos would be in a position he didn't provide a means of convenient and customer driven trading platform that a good portion of the world uses. Why is the left obsessed on knocking another man's success? Are you jealous you didn't invest in Amazon before it's meteoric rise? Who cares how much he is making. And no I don't believe he has earned every dollar through the linear mindset of "me give u apple for $1". No there is many factors involved like compounding interest, Company mergers, he put together an efficient system that utilises other people's money and brain power. It's a by-product of people management with some luck and big dreams.

Do you think all the bitcoin simps have earned every dollar that is basically 80% of this generation. No they just digital currency gamblers.
So don't blame capitalism rich and smart people will always find a way to increase their wealth no matter the system in place

Another note: blockbusters and book stores went out of business because it was no longer their time. Amazon and many others rose to dominate the market is because they paved a new way a better way. In 10-20 years time something else will replace them. Then people like you are going to blame the new thing on how it's taking advantage and others losing

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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Dec 2 2021 01:12pm)
if you are a somewhat healthy adult in a first world country, there is no excuse to be poor, it is a choice

there has never been more available opportunity, help and knowledge in the history of the fucking world

there a total dumbasses out there making good money, because they took action


Pretty childish perspective.
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Pretty childish perspective.


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Quote (KrWWW @ Dec 1 2021 10:15pm)
This is something I will be always interested in if it would make a difference

I know I don't know anything outside my city/state if I don't look for it


There's reason to believe that it would have a significant impact if we stopped national, sensationalist reporting of these incidences. The type of media covered is very notoriety-based and translates to a quasi-contagious social behavior. There's been researchers who have studied the mass shooting phenomenon in the US and who have painstakingly connected the dots when shooters either researched, credited, or directly referenced other past shooters before their own actions. It's not surprising that this phenomenon is largely isolated to young, white, dejected men who used a firearm.

Such inspiration tracing tends to always lead back to Columbine, which is the most-referenced incident by other mass shooters in their Internet/media histories, social media posts, and manifestos. The Columbine shooters themselves were actually inspired by the Oklahoma City Bomber and were to trying to "get a higher score" with their own bombing incident (This is a common phenomenon of mass shooters wanted to get a higher kill count than previous shooters). Fortunately, the Columbine event ended up having a bomb that was a dud and didn't go off. Although, they then decided to go inside the school with their weapons and subsequently sparked a chain of inspiration/social contagion for school shootings rather than bombings.

It's pretty fascinating stuff, really, and the proposition that such coverage should be "banned" isn't new. There's already precedent with media coverage on suicide because suicide is a socially contagious behavior and national, sensationalist reporting on high-profile suicides would translate to X00% increases in suicides/calls to hotlines for months after the reporting started to phase out.

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Quote (Surfpunk @ Dec 2 2021 11:32am)
What in the little rascals is this shit?

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There's reason to believe that it would have a significant impact if we stopped national, sensationalist reporting of these incidences. The type of media covered is very notoriety-based and translates to a quasi-contagious social behavior. There's been researchers who have studied the mass shooting phenomenon in the US and who have painstakingly connected the dots when shooters either researched, credited, or directly referenced other past shooters before their own actions. It's not surprising that this phenomenon is largely isolated to young, white, dejected men who used a firearm.

Such inspiration tracing tends to always lead back to Columbine, which is the most-referenced incident by other mass shooters in their Internet/media histories, social media posts, and manifestos. The Columbine shooters themselves were actually inspired by the Oklahoma City Bomber and were to trying to "get a higher score" with their own bombing incident (This is a common phenomenon of mass shooters wanted to get a higher kill count than previous shooters). Fortunately, the Columbine event ended up having a bomb that was a dud and didn't go off. Although, they then decided to go inside the school with their weapons and subsequently sparked a chain of inspiration/social contagion for school shootings rather than bombings.

It's pretty fascinating stuff, really, and the proposition that such coverage should be "banned" isn't new. There's already precedent with media coverage on suicide because suicide is a socially contagious behavior and national, sensationalist reporting on high-profile suicides would translate to X00% increases in suicides/calls to hotlines for months after the reporting started to phase out.


No shit sunshine. Imagine now what kind of behaviour we would have if the left and the mass media machine didn't ram their woke bml and lbgt race nonsense that isnt relevant to this century. We wouldn't had the massive increase of boys and girls out there identifying themselves as toasters right now or the mass lootings and property damages all across the country. Keep your private larping interests within your own circles.

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