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Jul 22 2021 09:10pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 22 2021 08:04pm)
No I didn't. I grinded out for months until I got on JSP. This notion that the drop system was broken because you couldn't 'fund' by purely MF is nonsense though. If I had to put an fg amount on it, the shit I mfed would of probably yielded less than 5k fg meanwhile the wealth generated from trading on jsp was 10x that easily.

Again it doesn't matter if it's 3 or 10 years, you're missing a fundamental element of the ecosystem if you think magic finding was the way to do it.



If it weren't for dupes, no one would have Enigma or any of the other runewords that required high runes...

Without dupes, you wouldn't have been able to acquire all that perfect gear because it would have cost hundreds, maybe thousands, of dollars for just one of those items. The reason we had an SOJ (and then later hex and then later HR) based economy is strictly because of dupes which means the drop rate was fundamentally broken.
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Quote (thundercock @ Jul 22 2021 11:10pm)
If it weren't for dupes, no one would have Enigma or any of the other runewords that required high runes...

Without dupes, you wouldn't have been able to acquire all that perfect gear because it would have cost hundreds, maybe thousands, of dollars for just one of those items. The reason we had an SOJ (and then later hex and then later HR) based economy is strictly because of dupes which means the drop rate was fundamentally broken.


Idk about no one but it would be drastically less.

But let's say you're right. Even if you are, the 3rd party websites that sold duped runes for extravagant amounts every ladder reset did so at least with some blessing from blizzard or people within blizzard. A fuck ton of money was being made at every reset. You really think Blizzard wasn't in on some of these profits? They were just continuously patching a 10, 15, 20 year old game with no in app purchases because of...?

So in a way Blizzard allowing this is the way to fix the low rate, which again created a fairly decent equilibrium from a supply/demand perspective. I much rather have it be like that then getting a high rune every other time I killed Baal.

As I look back, d2 remains one of my favorite RPG's I ever played, not because of the lore or graphics, but precisely because of the item system scarcity and how hard was it to actually have a 'perfect' character. Like I'm playing Witcher 3 now, fantastic game, but once I got the master crafted set (best gear in the game) my interest has significantly dropped.

Really good RPG's have that chasing the magic dragon angle to them, that makes people spend an obscene amount of hours doing repetitive shit for no reason than to just get a little better.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jul 22 2021 09:34pm
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Jul 22 2021 09:32pm
their stock has been rough over the last month
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Jul 22 2021 09:37pm
Look, more hidden footprints!
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Quote (HASBULLAH @ Jul 22 2021 10:02am)
why are women working at blizzard anyway? Do they have a cafeteria there?


They need someone to voice female characters.

It would be disturbing to find out that Charsi was voiced by a male, considering the things I've done while listening to her opening monologue of flirting with the barb.

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Quote (Kayeto @ Jul 22 2021 11:37pm)
They need someone to voice female characters.

It would be disturbing to find out that Charsi was voiced by a male, considering the things I've done while listening to her opening monologue of flirting with the barb.


Can use their recordings from answering the phones all day.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 22 2021 08:19pm)
Idea went over yourhead because you are too big brain.

“Pretend to be marxist”



The aesthetic of the game was the most important part. The kills and the sound effects and the lore and the big tit amazon were just SATISFYING to play. Its almost like theyve purposefully sucked the life out of newer adaptations.

The newer versions have “better” of all of that but it never answers the question “why should I care?”. It isnt compelling or aesthetic storytelling.


I read through another handful for you in case I missed something. I’m really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here.

Do you think racial equity, or pretending to care about racial equity, is Marxism?
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Quote (thundercock @ Jul 22 2021 04:32pm)
No? The only people who got rich in d2 were bot farmers and hackers. How many high runes did you actually FIND? SOJs? 40/15s?

RoS implemented pity trackers and you could choose to do GRifts, Rifts, etc. I agree that D3's economy is complete shit but the actual endgame content is much more fun.


i found lots of all but 40-15s.

the appeal of the diablo 2 loot table is that any monster can drop you a cracked sash or an item u can sell for lots of fg or even $$ in the early days when ebay sales were big.

if i find the best item in all of D3 its barely exciting, if i find a COA in d2 ill jump out of my chair even after playing 20 years.
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Jul 23 2021 07:52am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 23 2021 06:01am)
i found lots of all but 40-15s.

the appeal of the diablo 2 loot table is that any monster can drop you a cracked sash or an item u can sell for lots of fg or even $$ in the early days when ebay sales were big.

if i find the best item in all of D3 its barely exciting, if i find a COA in d2 ill jump out of my chair even after playing 20 years.



Absolutely this. It’s the main reason I quit playing d3, the items just didn’t matter in the end
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Jul 23 2021 08:15am
Quote (Kayeto @ 22 Jul 2021 20:37)
They need someone to voice female characters.

It would be disturbing to find out that Charsi was voiced by a male, considering the things I've done while listening to her opening monologue of flirting with the barb.


The Amazon's voice is gonna be male.
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