i dont uh disagree with any of this.

Plasma snake for president

How is life these days btw? Good to see you're alive

This post was edited by duffman316 on Jan 13 2021 09:40am

https://thedispatch.com/p/trump-populism-protectionism-legacy

I think this article basically destroys the idea that right-wing populism is a sustainable force.

PaRDians from all across the spectrum are united in their rabid cynicism.

America is a deeply flawed machine that still runs and gets the job done. My grandpa has a 1950s Oliver that looks like hell and hasn't had anything replaced but dry rot tires since before i was born, still plows snow.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 13 2021 10:17am

It's a good argument as to why Trump's model is not replicable, there is no one in the 2024 class that can replicate his mass rallies, but not a great explanation for why right-wing populism isn't a sustainable force in American politics.

Take a look at this forum specifically, as the American-right realigned, the "right-wing" faction on this board gradually absorbed many posters for whom supporting GWB was anathema. There is a give and take, as some Bush/Romney voters left, but the overall coalition has grown.

and that group moved into the political coalition where the industrial military complex/war machine/tech oligarchy cabal now lives

“Trumpism without Trump” is not feasible as you said. He’d have to give his endorsement as a kingmaker which isn’t a likely scenario. I think any shot of him organizing a media conglomerate is now gone

Republicans are stupid like this. They never learn. They wanted “Reaganism without Reagan” and spent nearly 30 years pushing shit warmongering neo-con candidates. I’m sure they did this same stunt with Ike and Teddy Roosevelt too after their time in the White House ended

Which is a problem in its own right, because a populist right-wing party still needs to build out an intellectual framework, and that isn't going to realistically come the bottom of the barrel grifters who largely staffed the late Trump administration. They need to bring some of the white-collar Republicans back on board because that is simply where a chunk of the intellectual capital is, and it's impossible to run a bureaucracy effectively if you have no one who knows what they're doing.

Trump’s self-inflicted bad decisions the last year really moved a lot of these types away. I know plenty who were fine with all his brashness and anti-establishment rhetoric as long as his foreign and economic policy remained sound, but were really soured by 2020 Trump. I do agree with you that he needed to get the bureaucracy in order because he clearly hadn’t dealt with running government at any level. unfortunately he trusted swamp demons on picking the intellectual capital and they were all anti-Trumpers

This post was edited by excellence on Jan 13 2021 11:40am

If the argument is "Trump brought in all these new voters because of his right-wing populism, so we'll just go with those policies, and a prettier and more serious face, and succeed", the article rebuts that. Trump's support, by and large, was not because of his handful of right-wing populist positions.

Which to me, is a pretty good argument as to why right-wing populism is not sustainable.

People on this forum don't support Trump because of the trade war or the marginal amount of new wall built. They like that he is cruel to people they hate.