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Quote (Subban2 @ 15 Jun 2020 19:30)
guy wasnt a threat? rofl he fuckin took is car to the fuckin wendys while being so drunk he felt asleep in his car.

He could have killed a few people on his way to his baconator

That is enough argument for a shootin itself then he went wresling the cops?

bella ciao

i mean i do like baconators when i want a mega cheat meal but i dunno if like them at that level

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Quote (excellence @ Jun 15 2020 08:12pm)
i mean i do like baconators when i want a mega cheat meal but i dunno if like them at that level



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Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard has announced that he is seeking 11 charges including felony murder against the officer who shot Rayshard Brooks in a completely batshit insane cloudcuckooland press conference today

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/fulton-howard-accused-public-disclosure-violations/yCGruh2OCf5N03rVGv0G3L/
https://www.cnn.com/webview/us/live-news/black-lives-matter-protests-06-17-2020/

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Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard said Rayshard Brooks was "never informed" that he was under arrest for driving under the influence.

Howard noted that this is a requirement of the Atlanta Police Department when one is charged with a DUI.

Howard added that Brooks "never presented himself as a threat." At first he was sleeping, Howard said, and then "he was cooperative" after he was awakened.

"But Mr. Brooks never displayed any aggressive behavior during the 41 minutes and 17 seconds," Howard said after his team studied the video evidence.


????????

The video is already public and clearly shows the officer say "You've clearly had too much to drink to be driving, put your hands behind your back for me-" and being attacked by Brooks before he could finish saying he's under arrest as he's being cuffed. You know, the part where Brooks initiated a violent struggle by attacking the officers. And then wrestled with them, punched them, grabbed a taser out of their hands and shot at them with it. Or as the DA put it, "never displayed any aggressive behavior" and "never presented himself as a threat"

The DA followed up by saying;

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"Once Mr. Brooks was shot, there is an Atlanta policy that requires that the officers have to provide timely medical attention to Mr. Brooks or to anyone who is injured. But after Mr. Brooks was shot, for some period of two minutes and 12 seconds, there was no medical attention applied to Mr. Brooks," the district attorney said.


Yes, it took a full 132 seconds between the officers shooting Brooks and them starting to administer medical attention, during which they made sure he was disarmed and not carrying other weapons and secured the scene.
Apparently to this DA, medical aid must be started before the body hits the ground or its absolutely haraam

On a related note, that DA is himself facing 12 violations of public disclosure law;
https://www.ajc.com/news/local/fulton-howard-accused-public-disclosure-violations/yCGruh2OCf5N03rVGv0G3L/
in which he was paid more than twice his income through some shell nonprofit with only 4 people listed its its books
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Quote (Goomshill @ 17 Jun 2020 15:55)
Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard has announced that he is seeking 11 charges including felony murder against the officer who shot Rayshard Brooks in a completely batshit insane cloudcuckooland press conference today

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/fulton-howard-accused-public-disclosure-violations/yCGruh2OCf5N03rVGv0G3L/
https://www.cnn.com/webview/us/live-news/black-lives-matter-protests-06-17-2020/



????????

The video is already public and clearly shows the officer say "You've clearly had too much to drink to be driving, put your hands behind your back for me-" and being attacked by Brooks before he could finish saying he's under arrest as he's being cuffed. You know, the part where Brooks initiated a violent struggle by attacking the officers. And then wrestled with them, punched them, grabbed a taser out of their hands and shot at them with it. Or as the DA put it, "never displayed any aggressive behavior" and "never presented himself as a threat"

The DA followed up by saying;



Yes, it took a full 132 seconds between the officers shooting Brooks and them starting to administer medical attention, during which they made sure he was disarmed and not carrying other weapons and secured the scene.
Apparently to this DA, medical aid must be started before the body hits the ground or its absolutely haraam

On a related note, that DA is himself facing 12 violations of public disclosure law;
https://www.ajc.com/news/local/fulton-howard-accused-public-disclosure-violations/yCGruh2OCf5N03rVGv0G3L/
in which he was paid more than twice his income through some shell nonprofit with only 4 people listed its its books


a city that is a (D) stronghold filled with corruption. what are the odds
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 17 2020 12:55pm)
Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard has announced that he is seeking 11 charges including felony murder against the officer who shot Rayshard Brooks in a completely batshit insane cloudcuckooland press conference today

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/fulton-howard-accused-public-disclosure-violations/yCGruh2OCf5N03rVGv0G3L/
https://www.cnn.com/webview/us/live-news/black-lives-matter-protests-06-17-2020/



????????

The video is already public and clearly shows the officer say "You've clearly had too much to drink to be driving, put your hands behind your back for me-" and being attacked by Brooks before he could finish saying he's under arrest as he's being cuffed. You know, the part where Brooks initiated a violent struggle by attacking the officers. And then wrestled with them, punched them, grabbed a taser out of their hands and shot at them with it. Or as the DA put it, "never displayed any aggressive behavior" and "never presented himself as a threat"

The DA followed up by saying;



Yes, it took a full 132 seconds between the officers shooting Brooks and them starting to administer medical attention, during which they made sure he was disarmed and not carrying other weapons and secured the scene.
Apparently to this DA, medical aid must be started before the body hits the ground or its absolutely haraam

On a related note, that DA is himself facing 12 violations of public disclosure law;
https://www.ajc.com/news/local/fulton-howard-accused-public-disclosure-violations/yCGruh2OCf5N03rVGv0G3L/
in which he was paid more than twice his income through some shell nonprofit with only 4 people listed its its books


This is the overcharge of the century in order to protect the general public. He won't be convicted.
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Jun 17 2020 02:06pm
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This is the overcharge of the century in order to protect the general public. He won't be convicted.


have you considered the possibility where he doesn't get a fair trial?
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Jun 17 2020 02:07pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 17 2020 02:55pm)
Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard has announced that he is seeking 11 charges including felony murder against the officer who shot Rayshard Brooks in a completely batshit insane cloudcuckooland press conference today

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/fulton-howard-accused-public-disclosure-violations/yCGruh2OCf5N03rVGv0G3L/
https://www.cnn.com/webview/us/live-news/black-lives-matter-protests-06-17-2020/



????????

The video is already public and clearly shows the officer say "You've clearly had too much to drink to be driving, put your hands behind your back for me-" and being attacked by Brooks before he could finish saying he's under arrest as he's being cuffed. You know, the part where Brooks initiated a violent struggle by attacking the officers. And then wrestled with them, punched them, grabbed a taser out of their hands and shot at them with it. Or as the DA put it, "never displayed any aggressive behavior" and "never presented himself as a threat"

The DA followed up by saying;



Yes, it took a full 132 seconds between the officers shooting Brooks and them starting to administer medical attention, during which they made sure he was disarmed and not carrying other weapons and secured the scene.
Apparently to this DA, medical aid must be started before the body hits the ground or its absolutely haraam

On a related note, that DA is himself facing 12 violations of public disclosure law;
https://www.ajc.com/news/local/fulton-howard-accused-public-disclosure-violations/yCGruh2OCf5N03rVGv0G3L/
in which he was paid more than twice his income through some shell nonprofit with only 4 people listed its its books


I would immediately resign from that department if I was another officer.

18 feet away? A reasonable person would conclude he wasn't a threat? Dude. He's going through extreme levels of stress, he just got shot with a taser 3 seconds before he fired his service weapon.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jun 17 2020 02:18pm
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have you considered the possibility where he doesn't get a fair trial?


That doesn't worry me at all. Why on Earth would I be worried about that when cops have gotten off time and time again? What a silly thing to be worried about.
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Quote (thundercock @ Jun 17 2020 03:10pm)
That doesn't worry me at all. Why on Earth would I be worried about that when cops have gotten off time and time again? What a silly thing to be worried about.


In this climate?
The same forces that compel a DA to blatantly violate their ethical responsibilities, the same rationalizations and cynical pragmatism to sate a mob and protect yourself, the same political animus against the accused- exist for a judge and jury

I followed a case in Minnesota where an alt-right white guy went to a BLM rally with some friends to film them from afar. Even though they kept a distance and didn't interact with them, the BLM group crossed the street and surrounded them. So they started running away. Unicorn Riot actually had a video of it, 3 white guys running away as fast as they could with at least a dozen black guys chasing them as they rounded a corner. Made it back to his car, and with all the black guys about to jump him he claims he saw a silvery object in the hand of one of them, thinking the guy's cell phone was a knife, and opened fire. Five people were shot with non-life threatening injuries. At trial, he was able to show he had tried to escape (satisfying Minnesota's duty to retreat law) and only opened fire when the group was already on top of him and clearly attacking him. The prosecutors sought hate crime charges, and therefore were able to introduce non-probative and clearly prejudicial evidence about how he posted on 4chan's /k/ board and sent text racist messages back and forth with his buddies. His self defense claim was rejected, he was convicted and sentenced to 15 years in prison. Afterwards, the strib talked with jurors from the trial and one of them said;

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"All of us were really surprised that people like Scarsella exist," she said. "We didn't know about websites like that were people had their little white supremacist rantings and stuff."
"I know Scarsella's face when he was found guilty. He tried to not show anything," Parker recalled. "I think he looked really surprised, like, 'Oh, wow. I thought I'd get off of this like George Zimmerman did.' But no. This is Minnesota."


Was he innocent or guilty? Knowing the facts of the case, I still am not sure which way it should actually go, there was arguable evidence he sought conflict, and arguable evidence he didn't. What I do know for sure is that he didn't get a fair trial.
Do you think the cop accused of killing Rayshard Brooks will get a fair trial?
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Jun 17 2020 02:40pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 17 2020 01:23pm)
In this climate?
The same forces that compel a DA to blatantly violate their ethical responsibilities, the same rationalizations and cynical pragmatism to sate a mob and protect yourself, the same political animus against the accused- exist for a judge and jury

I followed a case in Minnesota where an alt-right white guy went to a BLM rally with some friends to film them from afar. Even though they kept a distance and didn't interact with them, the BLM group crossed the street and surrounded them. So they started running away. Unicorn Riot actually had a video of it, 3 white guys running away as fast as they could with at least a dozen black guys chasing them as they rounded a corner. Made it back to his car, and with all the black guys about to jump him he claims he saw a silvery object in the hand of one of them, thinking the guy's cell phone was a knife, and opened fire. Five people were shot with non-life threatening injuries. At trial, he was able to show he had tried to escape (satisfying Minnesota's duty to retreat law) and only opened fire when the group was already on top of him and clearly attacking him. The prosecutors sought hate crime charges, and therefore were able to introduce non-probative and clearly prejudicial evidence about how he posted on 4chan's /k/ board and sent text racist messages back and forth with his buddies. His self defense claim was rejected, he was convicted and sentenced to 15 years in prison. Afterwards, the strib talked with jurors from the trial and one of them said;



Was he innocent or guilty? Knowing the facts of the case, I still am not sure which way it should actually go, there was arguable evidence he sought conflict, and arguable evidence he didn't. What I do know for sure is that he didn't get a fair trial.
Do you think the cop accused of killing Rayshard Brooks will get a fair trial?

Yes. I don't know what fantasy land you live in where Americans will over-zealously convict a cop but it's not happening. Until it actually HAPPENS, why would I worry?

It's really telling that you're worried about fair trials for alt-right people when people haven't gotten fair trials for CENTURIES. If you're poor, you're not getting a fair trial. You're going to get a shitty public defender and most likely plea out and serve time. You claim to be this guy who deeply cares about civil liberties but your post history appears to focus on an incredibly narrow subset of the population. Look, everyone deserves justice and a fair trial (including the alt-right, Nazis, etc.) but I'm not going to worry about six sigma events when there are other problems that are 2 inches from our face.
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