so, as things stand right now, Bernie won the popular vote, but Buttigieg won the most delegates.

I'm watching the live coverage on CNN (only american channel I have available on my TV), and they're literally drooling all over Pete and implicitly calling Biden to just give up and allow Buttigieg to consolidate the "moderate lane" . Bernie did pretty much as well as Buttigieg, but of course CNN is keeping almost entirely silent about him.


another thing: is it just me, or have we been at 62% reporting for over an hour now? dont tell me their reporting has once again gotten stuck.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 4 2020 05:53pm

It's all about expectations. Notice how they aren't really talking much about Warren either.

Buttigieg would be way easier to beat in the rest of the country than Biden.

this one will take a while, like it wont be tonight most likely

but bernie got the most votes, is a very close second in the delegate count, and he did meet expectations. sure, buttigieg gets more coverage than him because he exceeded his expectations more than bernie did, but that doesnt justify the huge disparity in the coverage they're giving these two.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 4 2020 05:59pm

lel

Trump would curb stomp mayor pete.

i don't like mayor pete. like at all. he's a spineless little weasel who'd sell his soul for this presidency. but in terms of head to head against trump, i see him as the most competitive, alongside bernie.

- biden would get steamrolled by trump. he has a terrible and very attackable political record, is a gaffe factory, and not particularly quick-witted. i'm not saying he's as dumb or as personally flawed as trump, but he could easily be portrayed as such, and most certainly would be at a massive disadvantage on stage.
- warren would probably also struggle. especially with the expected personal attacks. not as much as biden, as she's smarter and has better policies, on which she's able to focus if she so chooses, but she would (mostly unfairly ofc) probably still be perceived as weak.

- the one person i would have LOVED to see in debates against trump is kamala harris. not for her policies ofc, she's terrible, but she's rhetorically brilliant and would have wiped the floor with him - and it would have triggered him into oblivion. a woman of colour putting him in his place in front of the whole world - he might very well have imploded on live tv (if he ever agreed to a televised debate in the first place - which is a very real possibility he won't, if bernie or butt win the nomination).

buttigieg is undeniably smart. he's good at messaging, an excellent speaker, and he's quick-witted enough to exploit trump's own rhetorical and intellectual shortcomings. also, he doesn't have much of a record, politically or personally, to attack - so it will be difficult to make something really stick.

that said, to curb the butt hype a little:

black support lagging because too many black men really arent into gays would already be enough to sink him, lol.

Easily. Would be like a 40+ state victory map. Reagan proportions.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Feb 4 2020 06:56pm