Their assumption rests fundamentally on the idea that the world has to cater specifically to them. Like, we should all just overturn society and laws if they don't explicitly consent. They're snowflakes of the highest order, thinking their opinion is the most important in the world and nobody should do anything that bothers them.

Look at how easy it is to trigger Cam. If you so much as disagree with him you're an evil statist because he's too much of a pansy to exist in the real world.

I think the only way for them to understand how shit libertarianism is is to go to somalia and live it.
None of the guys who want it would be better off under it than they are now.
The corporations wont all hold hands and sing kombaya and give people pay rises out of generosity and good will.

Any time you bring up real world examples of places without government, or industries being deregulated and going to shit, or anything like that their go-to line is "NU UH, CUZ GOVERNMENT EXISTS SOMEWHERE IT MESSES UP FREE MARKETS EVERYWHERE!"

Or point to where the robber barons had that freedom and we took it off them because they became well.. robber barons.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Dec 6 2019 06:21pm

You explain it to me, it's not my responsibility to go read the article.



That taxation is theft.

Which is clearly is a flat out lie.

If I am legally required to pay taxes and I don't pay it, that's theft.

You been tricked into believing the exact opposite of what clearly is objectively true and you have failed to provide any reasonable explanation or justification as to why you would state something that is a lie.

What's really happening here, is that large corporate donors of fossil fuel companies have paid a lot of money to feed you a talking point, that makes no sense and isn't supported by either major political party.

They have done this completely out of their own personal interests, which is to avoid taxation, even though those industries are heavily subsidized by US tax payer dollars through grants.

So they want you to pay them money for their services, pay taxes to subsidize their business, and then have their business be tax exempt.

From the perspective of their business, this is just smart money.

From the perspective of any sane individual, there is no logical conclusion that makes any sense other than that you have been tricked.

Which you have.

Because once you start believing nonsense like "taxation is theft," you're going to be way more open to their rest of their neoliberal policy ideas that haven't done the average person in American any good.

Which is what you are...

An average American...



And there you go with the personal insults, so this conversation is over.

This post was edited by mki on Dec 6 2019 06:46pm

lmao, exactly.

Either you believe you have the right to your own labor or you don't. Its very simple. If I have the right to own my own labor and wish to exchange that with someone in exchange for potatoes, or in this case phat stax of money, then I should get 100% of the money.

Why does the mob get to step in and say "wait you us a cut", why, the fuck you provide? Go away.

"we give you roads, education, protection!"

Fuck off, I don't want it, I rather keep my money.

"Nah too bad, we decide you need our shitty product for as much as we say, ours now, not theft though, look at this shiny law!"

Literally rules written by the people who rob you. Get real. Do you realize if people could actually ween out of taxes, people would at the same time build up their own co-ops (which socialists love btw), and the private market would take care of it. The government cannot do shit properly, never has, never will.

This post was edited by LA-Leviathan on Dec 6 2019 07:11pm

In 21th century it can potentially go far beyond what red barons did: Big brothers
China's parliament has about 100 billionaires, it's not the same story but it could end up with same result.

So once again; Alexandria...

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Dec 6 2019 07:13pm

Without your education, infrastructure, and technology invented by government funded science you would be making pennies a day. Youre given the materials that elevate you from 10 cents an hour to tens of dollars and complain that you have to give a fraction as payment to keep the system going.

You unironically prove my point for me, this high IQ thought is spawned of our great government education system.

Imagine thinking that the only way we evolve and adapt is by the will of daddy government. Oh boy.