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May 16 2018 02:51am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ May 16 2018 10:45am)
True.


Are you kidding me?

This post was edited by Chevaucheur on May 16 2018 02:52am
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True. It is occupied after a war which Israel didn’t start.
I can’t think of a country that didn’t shaped its borders through war.

The next is Not connected to the comment, but I’ll like to hear opinions on this:
The common ground of every society should be the desire to live in peace. Israel is happened to be a young state, established after the horrors of WWII. The discussion if Israel should or shouldn’t exist is irrelevant. What we do need in this country is a solution which allows us to co-exist in our neighborhood.
Israelis , just like many Palestinians , was born into this situation. Nothing much I can do to change the past. And because of the constant failure in ending the conflict, a lot of us lost hope.

The way I see it, we already lost the chance for one happy family.
The solution I’m for, is the two states solution. The way to get it is unclear.
Either a strong , charismatic leader will emerge and force the situation to end (by two states or one state) - By making painful decisions.
OR we will be at a civil war which change the whole existing system to something else.

Ofc other things which are not necessarily connected to Israel might happend (such as war or being forced down by superpowers) - but it’s not up to us.

Any other solutions in the horizon ?
What would you think will happen ?


I think a two state solution is not feasible and neither the status quo sustainable.
I think a one state solution will emerge after a big Israeli military defeat.
I wish that would have happened already or will happen without war, but as of current conditions Israelis will not accept it before they feel the heat of a military defeat.
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May 16 2018 02:53am
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It is important to know the laws of Israel in order to understand their attitude.


the Law of Israel says: I am your God. You shall not have other gods beside me.

which is very funny because God gave them Metatron, the angel who looks like God.

so the main thing is, all angels are actually messengers of God. Lucifer is a messenger of God too. All angels are put to their proper place.

Lucifer is like Kerrigan at starcraft. Is actually pretty standard roman and romanian tactics: You don't put the Emperor in the first line. You put him FIRST. Of course he won't die, he has the best armor, best sword, best horse. But all troops will rush to protect him. They'll be scared not that he will be in peril, but that another scar will come across his beloved face ...
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the Law of Israel says: I am your God. You shall not have other gods beside me.

which is very funny because God gave them Metatron, the angel who looks like God.

so the main thing is, all angels are actually messengers of God. Lucifer is a messenger of God too. All angels are put to their proper place.

Lucifer is like Kerrigan at starcraft. Is actually pretty standard roman and romanian tactics: You don't put the Emperor in the first line. You put him FIRST. Of course he won't die, he has the best armor, best sword, best horse. But all troops will rush to protect him. They'll be scared not that he will be in peril, but that another scar will come across his beloved face ...


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May 16 2018 02:59am
You are making an extremely serious confusion between Israel and the Jewish community.
Not all Israelis are Jewish.

And you should respect them.
You should respect the non-Jewish Israelis.

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Isolated and Agitated.
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May 16 2018 03:10am
ok so God is playing starcraft. Co-op mode. So which commander to choose ... Metatron. Oh yeah, God is tough with Metatron, almost maxed level. So it's the Israeli terrans. Must remember to make many tanks

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May 16 2018 03:14am
I think the world is becoming dependent on Israel.

In the 21st century, powers are centralized as they have never been in history.
In the history of mankind, power has never been so centralized as it is today.

And every day the power is a little more centralized.

From my work in the social sciences, I think that the more power is centralized, the more there is need for decency in society.



Judaism is a culture in which there is a lot of decency.
You, you believe that Israel has little decency (don't you?), but you are mistaken.

Murder is not necessarily something indecent.

When the united nations create a country in mosaic, in the middle of hostile territories, without protecting it, that is totally indecent.
When Barack Obama gives money to Palestine, which will be used to finance terrorism, that is totally indecent.

When Israel kills Palestinians, because they are scuttling the country from the inside, that's not totally indecent.



Jewish culture is a culture in which there is a lot of decency.
Jewish culture is a culture in which there is a lot of decency.
Jewish culture is a culture in which there is a lot of decency.
Jewish culture is a culture in which there is a lot of decency.
It's the truth.

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May 16 2018 03:23am
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I think a two state solution is not feasible and neither the status quo sustainable.
I think a one state solution will emerge after a big Israeli military defeat.
I wish that would have happened already or will happen without war, but as of current conditions Israelis will not accept it before they feel the heat of a military defeat.



Military defeat by who ?
Strongest army in this region is Egypt’s but they won’t do shit.
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ May 16 2018 11:23am)
Military defeat by who ?
Strongest army in this region is Egypt’s but they won’t do shit.


Egypt? Strongest army in region is Israel.
Who and how could defeat it is realm of speculation.
Perhaps that the unsustainability of status quo will push Israel to do something foolish which will backfire. Even the strongest army can be misused.
Plus Israeli combat morale and tolerance to casualties is low.
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