I don't know if it would even make a difference. I'm sure college/student tax breaks are a relatively new thing, and we must have managed before them.
Even if that part of whoever's tax bill gets included, I still don't think it will hurt the US sciences very much.

After all, ya only need a handful of top of the pack scientists. It's not like it would have been better if we had 10 Einsteins.

using a personal potential anecdotal situation isnt an argument

lefties love to argue from the position of “everyone should pay their fair share” well the opportunity is there now.

Scientists like Einstein are often portrayed as solo-geniuses because it's a convenient narrative.

But that's just now how these things work.

For every great scientist you hear about there are hundreds of people they are collaborating with, and thousands more who are bean-counters that make revolutions possible.

Most of Einstein's ideas weren't even his originally, he basically got credit because he was the first one to observe the eclipse and prove that gravity bends light.

Hell, most science in this world isn't even done by the leaders of the labs. It's done by graduate students and Masters-level workers.


We already have a shortage of scientists who actually want to go into relavent industries. We have a massive shortage of graduate-trained computer scientists for instance, this will only make the shortage worse.


Also, it's not removing a tax break. It's creating a new tax specifically to affect graduate students. Stipends haven't been taxed before, in the past they actually weren't even paying income tax but Republicans changed that too....

I also question whether we even need a lot of the degrees colleges are handing out these days.
Maybe if we DON'T have a lot of deductions for things associated with degrees, we would have a lot less idiots, with degrees, running around.









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I still think we are wasting money making it more financially easy to get degrees.

Yeah, we probably do have a shortage of computer scientists...because we have an excess of computers. That will balance out in the long run.
I think when you make it MORE financially easy to acquire degrees, you are more or less...making it easier for flat earthers to get a degree.

This post was edited by Ghot on Dec 3 2017 05:50pm

No.... we have a shortage of computer scientists because we have an excess of corporations and military applications that need competent programmers, especially in the realm of security.

I guess this is where we hit a wall then because you basically know nothing about science or industry on any level.

200% salty gg

why is someone who is on state subsidy trying so hard to be talking down on people who work for a living?

That's what I said..."we have too many computers". I just figured you would be able to understand my meaning.

Ok, here it is, more simply...we have more computer science jobs that we have computer science students. Clear enough for you?

Giving lots of tax breaks for students...just means more students get degrees....not that we end up with more of the kind we happen to need.




/e They should do it like the military does. Give the breaks to the students going for the degrees we ....need. Giving breaks to any student willy nilly, doesn't help the US...it hurts it.

This post was edited by Ghot on Dec 3 2017 06:14pm

For this wisdom I ask the Trumpster

You keep calling it a break, it's not, it's an increase. A tax that's never been there before.